On Wed, Aug 31, 2005 at 03:21:10PM -0400, Colin Davis wrote: > I just fail to see what an applet gains that can't be done with an > XMLHttpRequest and a properly written webpage. This is a file that's > going to be downloading over minutes/hours. We don't exactly need up to > the second status updates, and even if we did, we can do that purely in > the browser. > > > There's UI tricks you could do to make it less difficult to check, if > you really wanted to go that route. You could have a fproxy option to > append a frame onto the side/top of all pages, similiar to the > GoogleCache frame. > I'm note sure of the feasibility, but couldn't the you feed one or two > bits / second to the download, just enough to make it not time out? That > way, when I click a link in fproxy, it starts a download, in my > browser's exsiting download manager. Freenet continues to feed one or > two bits of garbage/whitespace/whatever to the download every few > seconds, to prevent a time out. From my perspective, it would look like > any other download, just take a long time. When freenet internally > finished downloading the file, it can just give the rest of the bits to > the browser, which thinkgs it's been downloading the whole time.
Problem is, it wouldn't appear to have any progress. We have to download to disk. > > These are just examples, and not very good ones at that. But there's a > lot of things that /could/ be done to make it feel like it belongs in a > browser. > > Just a few random thoughts, > Colin > > > Matthew Toseland wrote: > > >Well, the more paranoid will certainly disable applet support in their > >browsers... > > > >On Wed, Aug 31, 2005 at 05:32:50PM +0300, Constantine Dokolas wrote: > > > > > >>Ian Clarke wrote: > >> > >> > >>>The correct solution is using a "Freenet aware" third-party client that > >>>doesn't require us to hammer the square peg of a Freenet download, into > >>>the round hole of a web browser. The "web metaphor" is all very well > >>>when it is appropriate, but in the case of the download of large files > >>> > >>> > >>>from Freenet, it simply isn't. Better to do it properly than to impose > >> > >> > >>>an inappropriate metaphor where it doesn't belong. > >>> > >>> > >>I've been following this thread, but I still don't see why the download > >>progress page can't be handled by a simple (which may be an > >>understatement) applet. I haven't heard anybody mention that possibility > >>yet and I don't know why everybody is stuck in the > >>HTML-or-full-blown-client way of thinking. > >> > >>Doc > >> > >> > >>------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >> > >>_______________________________________________ > >>Devl mailing list > >>Devl at freenetproject.org > >>http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl > >> > > _______________________________________________ > Devl mailing list > Devl at freenetproject.org > http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl -- Matthew J Toseland - toad at amphibian.dyndns.org Freenet Project Official Codemonkey - http://freenetproject.org/ ICTHUS - Nothing is impossible. Our Boss says so. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Digital signature URL: <https://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/devl/attachments/20050831/e78dbdf6/attachment.pgp>
