>Well, before we make any such drastic changes we need to sort out the >caching behaviour; it is probably wrong at the moment. > >Is your node on 24x7?
No, not for as long as I am still running Freenet .5 Is that a reason why my node is at totally different locations? >On Wed, Jun 21, 2006 at 06:01:54PM +0200, Ruud Javi wrote: > > >Is there a serious problem with node location stability? Oskar's > > >simulations suggest not. Anything which impacts location swapping will > > >need to be simulated, of course. > > > > Well... I can only talk for myself, but my own node's location is >changing > > often to total different values. Yesterday I was at about 0.4 and at >this > > moment I am around 0.1 . Note that I did not add or remove peers in > > between. With the size of the current network, I think that a change of > > about 0.3 is extremely big and unwanted. > > > > Anyway, I am unsure how serious this problem is. So far, I am able to > > retrieve all Freesites inside Freenet .7 , also old ones. Maybe when the > > network grows, it's harder to find keys and it does seems to be a >serious > > problem. > > > > > > > > >My main concern with treating offline nodes as online for purposes of > > >swapping is that swaps cannot involve those offline nodes; they are > > >static for the period while they are offline, this may not be good for > > >location swapping. > > > > Agreed on. Most optimistic view against that is that when the node comes > > back on he will have the same location. If a swap occurs, no matter how >you > > treat off-line nodes, the effect for the offline node is none untill it > > gets back on. > > > > As long as we will not have much DNF's, as told above, this is probably >not > > an issue. > > > > > > > > > > >On Wed, Jun 21, 2006 at 04:25:40PM +0200, Ruud Javi wrote: > > >> The following text is describing a way to have a more stable node > > >location, > > >> by treating temporary offline nodes as online nodes. > > >> > > >> The location of your node is depending on your neighbors. If your > > >> neighbor?s locations are all around 0.5, then your node will also try >to > > >> get a location close to 0.5 > > >> > > >> When somebody is inserting content into Freenet, specific keys will >go > > >to > > >> specific locations. Others are able to retrieve this content as long >as > > >> your node is at that location (or close). For that reason it?s a good > > >thing > > >> if a node would stay at a specific location. > > >> > > >> If the network is stable, no location-swaps would occur. The network > > >would > > >> not be stable if nodes join the network or leave the network. This >can > > >be > > >> as well temporary (non 24/7 nodes) or permanent (nodes >joining/leaving). > > >> > > >> Against permanent changes is not that much possible; when new nodes > > >arrive > > >> it is necessary that this has an effect on node locations. > > >> > > >> Against temporary changes we can do something. If a neighbor of you > > >would > > >> go offline (bedtime), your node would choose another location, as >most > > >> optimal. Instead of this your node could just treat the offline node >as > > >an > > >> online node for some time (perhaps 24 hours). Of course your node >could > > >not > > >> change the location with an offline node, but it could decide not to > > >change > > >> location with an online node. The idea is that once the offline node > > >would > > >> come back online, you would want your old location back. > > >> > > >> In this way your node?s location would most probably be more stable >as > > >the > > >> current situation. > > >> > > >> Last questions: > > >> - Is a more stable node location a big advantage? > > >> - Will routing be worse if a lot of your neighbors are temporary > > >> offline and you would not change node location? > > >-- > > >Matthew J Toseland - toad at amphibian.dyndns.org > > >Freenet Project Official Codemonkey - http://freenetproject.org/ > > >ICTHUS - Nothing is impossible. Our Boss says so. > > > > > > ><< signature.asc >> > > > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > >Devl mailing list > > >Devl at freenetproject.org > > >http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > MSN Search, for accurate results! http://search.msn.nl > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Devl mailing list > > Devl at freenetproject.org > > http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl > > > >-- >Matthew J Toseland - toad at amphibian.dyndns.org >Freenet Project Official Codemonkey - http://freenetproject.org/ >ICTHUS - Nothing is impossible. Our Boss says so. ><< signature.asc >> >_______________________________________________ >Devl mailing list >Devl at freenetproject.org >http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl _________________________________________________________________ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar - get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/
