On Thursday 12 June 2008 23:13, Ian Clarke wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 5:04 PM, Michael Rogers <m.rogers at cs.ucl.ac.uk> 
wrote:
> > Ian Clarke wrote:
> >> I don't see why nodes couldn't inform their neighbors immediately if
> >> one of their neighbors goes offline, or comes online.
> >
> > Seems like it might make correlation attacks easier if you know how many
> > active neighbours a node has and what their locations are. It might also
> > make long-term intersection attacks easier by revealing when users are
> > online.

The information is available now from swapping, it's a question of making it 
more reliable, up to date and accurate.
> 
> It is always possible, when you share more information, that you are
> making attacks easier, although it would be nice to have a specific
> description of an attack.

Correlation attacks: statistical attack based on recognising content, work out 
how likely it is that your peer is the source. This is somewhat easier with 
the above mechanism because we get a faster notification of when a node goes 
offline.

Long-term intersection attack: Correlate the time at which inserts, requests 
etc which can be tied to a specific identity happen with the time at which a 
specific node is known to be online or offline. Generally this is much less 
of a threat to Freenet than to a real-time mixnet. The mechanism we are 
describing would make it easier but only when attacking your peers' peers. 
And probably not by very much as we should get a notification within minutes 
via swapping anyway.
> 
> We may want to think about whether, if I have a darknet neighbor, a
> "friend", but I am opennet (so I am connected to some strangers), I
> should share my friend's location with strangers.

IMHO the above could and should work even on pure opennet.
> 
> I can't think of an immediately obvious reason why not, since I'm only
> revealing their location, not their IP address, but it deserves
> further thought.
> 
> Ian.
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