On Monday 01 September 2008 21:49, Florent Daigni?re wrote:
> * Matthew Toseland <toad at amphibian.dyndns.org> [2008-09-01 21:43:33]:
> 
> > On Monday 01 September 2008 19:45, Ian Clarke wrote:
> > > On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 12:05 PM, Matthew Toseland
> > > <toad at amphibian.dyndns.org> wrote:
> > > > 1. Bootstrapping is working extremely slowly at the moment. It takes 
5-10
> > > > minutes for a new node to get 10 peers according to the regular 
testing 
> > code.
> > > 
> > > What, if anything, are we doing about this?  What can we do about this?
> > 
> > We can solicit more seednodes. I've just done that. Beyond that I dunno, 
maybe 
> > it is worth investigating to see if there is a bug blocking things.
> > 
> > I do think that improving Freenet's speed in general, even after 
> > bootstrapping, with things like FOAF and better handling of opennet node 
> > locations, will help us to gain and keep users. Nextgens will enable FOAF 
> > soon, this should help; when Vivee has some answers, hopefully we'll be 
able 
> > to sort out opennet swapping (we've talked extensively about simulations, 
> > hopefully this will be sorted soon).
> > > 
> > > > 2. Many users get confused when we tell them that the ports may not 
have 
> > been
> > > > forwarded, and this certainly leads to some uninstallations. We should 
fix
> > > > the FNPPacketsSent-based not-port-forwarded detection, and only show 
that
> > > > message if we have grounds to think we are not port forwarded.
> > > 
> > > Ok, we should do it.
> > 
> > Right.
> > > 
> > > > 3. I suspect both this and the lack of content overlap with not 
knowing 
> > what
> > > > to do with Freenet i.e. just the web interface isn't that interesting 
on 
> > its
> > > > own, filesharing and chat need to be easy and obvious.
> > > 
> > > Ok, so where do fixing these issues fit into our current priorities?
> > 
> > As far as #3 goes, I'm open to suggestions.
> > 
> > Searching: Lots of users want searching, and are disappointed when they 
don't 
> > get it. Integrating XMLLibrarian into freesites and into the homepage 
would 
> > help; making XMLSpider easier to use might help too; in any case, we need 
> > somebody to regularly insert an index.
> > 
> > Chat: Saces is working on a plugin to implement FMS. This probably won't 
have 
> > a good web interface but may be a middle layer above WoT and below a web 
> > interface. A web interfaced embeddable chat plugin would be ideal, but 
making 
> > Frost use the WoT plugin would also be acceptable; we then have the 
question 
> > of how to make users aware of it if it's an external program.
> > 
> > Filesharing: Again, how do we make users aware of Thaw, given it's an 
external 
> > program? Or do we tightly integrate the ThawIndexPlugin? I haven't used 
it, 
> > how useful is it?
> 
> It useful, we should do it.
> 
Saces already did, right? In which case we should include it in the default 
plugins list?
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