* Ian Clarke <ian.clarke at gmail.com> [2008-09-01 18:29:24]: > On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 3:43 PM, Matthew Toseland > <toad at amphibian.dyndns.org> wrote: > > On Monday 01 September 2008 19:45, Ian Clarke wrote: > >> On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 12:05 PM, Matthew Toseland > >> <toad at amphibian.dyndns.org> wrote: > >> > 1. Bootstrapping is working extremely slowly at the moment. It takes 5-10 > >> > minutes for a new node to get 10 peers according to the regular testing > > code. > >> > >> What, if anything, are we doing about this? What can we do about this? > > > > We can solicit more seednodes. I've just done that. Beyond that I dunno, > > maybe > > it is worth investigating to see if there is a bug blocking things. > > Well, don't we know what it is doing during these 10 minutes? This > should be a top priority IMHO. This may seem unimportant to > experienced users who know they just need to wait, but most newbies > aren't going to wait 10 minutes to get something useful out of > Freenet. I can't see any legitimate reason this should take so long. > > > As far as #3 goes, I'm open to suggestions. > > > > Searching: Lots of users want searching, and are disappointed when they > > don't > > get it. Integrating XMLLibrarian into freesites and into the homepage would > > help; making XMLSpider easier to use might help too; in any case, we need > > somebody to regularly insert an index. > > Ok, so a Google-style search box should be placed prominently on the > front page of Fproxy - perhaps even making other things less prominent > (perhaps modeling it closely on the layout of http://google.com/ - > familiarity is a *good thing* where UIs are concerned). > > Now that I think about it, perhaps we should be rather shameless about > copying the layout and general appearance of http://google.com/... > Its an interface even the most novice user would recognize > immediately. > > > Hopefully we can merge sdiz's branch soon. This should improve performance > > and > > reduce system impact, although to start with it should be off by default. My > > db4o branch is rapidly approaching usability; there is more work to do on > > inserts etc, but requests are working well, with fairly low resource usage. > > So that can be merged soon too. I've mentioned work related to speed above. > > And the port forwarding warning is a usability issue we need to deal with > > soon. > > Ok, I think in-general we need to address problems in order of their > impact on newbies, at least for a few months. That survey was scary, > not so-much the responses themselves, but the number of them. I think > we could see *rapid* adoption if we are smart about addressing > newbie's needs. > > Ian. >
Heh. The main complain is that freenet is slow... do we know how to address that? I don't think that putting a search box in front will help matters; Let's assume the nodes bootstrap in seconds instead of minutes: current indexes aren't maintained and if they were they would be *huge*. We can't possibly expect the first search to be answered in seconds if it involves downloading the huge index! Of course we could bundle the indexes too... but if we go down that road it's not freenet anymore. NextGen$ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: Digital signature URL: <https://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/devl/attachments/20080902/1f89fc62/attachment.pgp>
