To avoid this problem, I chose to use an anonymous address. Others should do
the same.


On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 1:40 PM, Matthew Toseland <toad at amphibian.dyndns.org
> wrote:

> On Tuesday 26 May 2009 01:00:57 Ximin Luo wrote:
> > Matthew Toseland wrote:
> > > On one prior occasion (this year), we have authorised a mailing list
> archive
> > > site to remove messages posted by somebody. I have now had another mail
> > > asking for us to remove somebody's name from two archives which we
> don't run
> > > - which generally requires him asking them and getting authorisation
> from us
> > > - and from our own archives.
> > >
> > > If this is to be a regular occurrence, we need to formulate some
> policy, and
> > > IMHO the best way to do this is to discuss it here. Does anyone have an
> > > opinion on this? I doubt very much that we have any legal obligation to
> > > remove somebody's posts, especially as at least one of the other
> archive
> > > sites will only remove messages with our say so, but I guess we could
> get
> > > legal advice on it... Any opinions on the principle? IMHO rewriting
> history
> > > to make yourself look good to employers is dubious, but at the same
> time we
> > > clearly don't want to pick fights and unnecessarily annoy people.
> >
> > but people repeatedly quote each other; i wouldn't've thought archive
> sites'
> > software would be sufficiently advanced enough to remove all traces of
> them
> > from their archive?
> >
> > IMO we should avoid removing entire messages, and encourage people to
> accept
> > removal of their name & other traceable stuff only. if they insist, it's
> > probably kind to remove everything, but I'm still surprised that this is
> > technically feasible.
>
> Agreed. On our own archives, we can change the person's name to Anonymous
> Coward 1234. But on other people's archives, usually they will only accept
> deletion requests, authorised by the owner of the mailing list.
>
> Two further complications:
> - We are losing emu. This may mean losing our mailing list archives. In
> which case, deletion is the only option, because we rely on third party
> archives. Which really sucks. However, hopefully we will still be able to
> host basic mailing list archives. Ian is however pushing for us to outsource
> absolutely everything...
> - Removing from lurker (archives.freenetproject.org) is nontrivial,
> involving a 6 hour index rebuild during which time it will probably be
> offline.
>
> It is tempting to charge a fee - we could set it quite high and still be
> cheaper than suing us for making somebody less attractive to employers. But
> then if we missed a single message we could surely be sued for missing it.
> Although a disclaimer promising to put right any mistakes once notified and
> disclaiming all further liabilities might avoid that problem.
>
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