That's a good point, stop worrying about the physical side of things because it 
is a bit pointless. Perhaps just recommend that the user install Truecrypt and 
refer them to the Truecrypt site, give them a strong warning that if their 
drive is not encrypted, Freenet can't actually protect them from physical 
attacks.


On Jul 31, 2010, at 9:52 AM, xor wrote:

> On Friday 30 July 2010 04:29:54 pm Matthew Toseland wrote:
>> 
>> 1. Offer to turn on encrypted swap in the installer. Keep encrypting
>> everything. Warn users about saving files out, and media files, and work
>> towards playing media files in an embedded (e.g. java) player that doesn't
>> use plaintext temp files. 
> 
> Offering to reconfigure swap to be encrypted is out of scope. And not 
> possible 
> on Windows
> 
>> 2. Give up on encrypting anything on disk, and
>> offer to install TrueCrypt if it isn't already installed.
> 
> Offering TrueCrypt is out of scope
> 
> I see a third option:
> 
> 3. Realize that most users have a real LOAD of stuff on their hard disks 
> which 
> could get them screwed. Get rid of physical security. Encrypting the Freenet 
> stuff does not help because they will use browsers which cache dangerous 
> stuff 
> and do downloads of dangerous stuff etc. The really paranoid ones will use 
> TrueCrypt anyway. And encryption makes stuff slow.
> 
> I mean it IS nice that we have a physical security level but I wouldn't have 
> offered that feature from the beginning on.
> 
> If you want to be safe when your computer gets seized you absolutely have to 
> do full disk encryption, something will ALWAYS leak out otherwise.
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