On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 5:28 PM, Matthew Toseland
<toad at amphibian.dyndns.org>wrote:

> On Thursday 02 December 2010 19:49:19 xor wrote:
> > > For example, we could make 1) more difficult if, any time we see two
> peers
> > > in the came class-B address range, we disconnect from both of them, or
> at
> > > least never route anything to either of them.
> >
> > Restricting the amount of connections from an IP subnet is definitely
> something
> > which should be implemented.
> >
> > However this might screw up performance because it might lead to people
> being
> > only connected to peers which are long-distance in terms of the
> Internet....
> > In the worst case you will only have peers from another country because
> some
> > countries have quasi-monopolistic ISP structures: For example in Germany
> there
> > is a large variety of ISPs but many of them use the backbones of the
> former
> > federal phone company which was converted to a private company less than
> two
> > decades ago and therefore still has the best infrastructure....
>
> Well, from a security point of view, connecting mostly to people in other
> jurisdictions is probably a good thing.
> >
> > Therefore, it should probably only be enabled with the "NORMAL" security
> > level...
>
> Right.
>
> > and it should be investigated how it behaves in practice.
>
> Yeah...
> >
> > One useful measurement for that would be obtaining a "IP => Country" map
>
> Care to find one?
>

http://www.maxmind.com/app/geoip_country


>
> > and
> > displaying a country flag next to each peer, then even
> non-Freenet-engineers
> > could figure out whether their node is well connected.
>
> I don't see what you mean by well-connected here.
> >
> > Further, I propose an additional and easier to implement improvement
> against
> > this attack: Provide a configuration option "Do not connect to strangers
> from
> > my country" which prevents Opennet connections to peers from the same
> > country...
> > - Attackers are very likely to be from the same country, both federal and
> > commercial ones.
> >
> Interesting possibility, similar to some other networks. I'd be a bit
> worried about impact on routing - given the small performance bias in
> opennet, isn't it possible that the nearby peers location-wise are all in
> your country?
>
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