On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 1:21 PM, Matthew Toseland
<toad at amphibian.dyndns.org>wrote:

> On Wednesday 07 Mar 2012 17:18:54 Ian Clarke wrote:
> > Unless those freenet devs are willing to build the GUI themselves, I
> > recommend that you do not allow them to prevent you from proceeding.
> >  Someone willing to make things happen should not be prevented from doing
> > so by someone with an opinion, but who isn't willing to do the work.
>
> Even if it means breaking existing code for a large minority of users?
> (The whole no-javascript lobby)?


Yes, the vast number of people that refuse to use anything but Lynx?  There
is RMS, who are the other ones?  So far as I know RMS doesn't use Freenet
so we don't have to worry about him.

But seriously, it would be insanity to hold up development of a decent user
interface just because of the griping of a few people who, for no logical
reason, refuse to enable JavaScript in their browsers.

If they care so much about it nobody is preventing them from creating their
own non-JavaScript UI, but they shouldn't be able to hold up progress for
the vast majority of people that don't have an irrational fear of
JavaScript.


> > Yes, but please don't let one stubborn person prevent you from making
> > progress.  The opinion that really matters is the opinion of the person
> > that is willing to do the work.  You should consider their opinions, but
> > don't let them block progress.  All other opinions are secondary
> (including
> > mine!), your opinion is what really matters if you are willing to do the
> > actual work.
>
> Unless it breaks the code for a large number of actively contributing
> users, and therefore costs us HUGELY. Which it will if there is no
> non-javascript support.
>

If this is such a concern to them then they should be willing to implement
their own non-JavaScript UI.  They should not be permitted to stand in the
way of people who are actually willing to do real work to improve the UI.

Ian.

-- 
Ian Clarke
Personal blog: http://blog.locut.us/
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