Seth,
I really do regard my phone number as private information and even if I
share it with my physician without hesitation, giving it out to a global
corpo is out of the question for me. I do understand, that they may have
some internal policies based on some reasoning, and I'm not going to
argue with that. Let them have it. Only I'm not going to accept that.
Then again. I do UNDERSTAND, that I won't be able to contribute to the
project. I really do get it. My intention in writing the massage was
only that:
1. the core developers may not be aware, that this sort of "additional
confirmation" could be unfriendly to people. (no matter argumentation).
2. and I wanted to tell Oliver that at this point I won't be
contributing to this "multiboard docs" project. I'm sorry.
Anyway, thenx everybody for wonderful KiCAD and see you somewhere else.
bye.
-R
W dniu 29.02.2024 o 18:24, Seth Hillbrand pisze:
GitLab is where all development happens. If their requirements are too
onerous then, while we are sorry to lose you, there are extremely
limited ways that you'll be able to be involved in KiCad at all.
You can still offer translations at
https://hosted.weblate.org/projects/kicad/
<https://hosted.weblate.org/projects/kicad/> but that is all.
Everything else happens on GitLab. We do not accept patches through the
mailing list.
It is interesting to me that you would consider phone numbers to be
private information. We used to print huge books with everyone's name,
address and phone number in them. Then everyone got a copy of the
book. Of course, I put my phone number in my e-mail signature, so maybe
I'm missing something. Regardless, GitLab isn't using your phone number
for nefarious purposes, they offer a free service with free CI time on
their shared machines. Before they asked for verification information,
cryptobros would abuse this for bitcoin mining and everyone suffered.
Now, projects like KiCad are able to use the CI machines for testing
builds and finding bugs.
Seth
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On Thu, Feb 29, 2024 at 4:08 AM 'Rafał Pietrak' via KiCad Developers
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hmmm... I just tried to setup an account there (on gitlab), and it
asked
me for a phone number "for confirmation" - that's unacceptable invasion
of privacy. So, (regrettably) I'm not be able to join you there.
BR.
Rafał
W dniu 29.02.2024 o 09:06, Kliment (Future Bits) pisze:
> Hello Rafał,
>
> KiCad development was never on GitHub - it was originally on
Launchpad
> and later moved to GitLab. The issue (and therefore feature request)
> tracker is at https://gitlab.com/kicad/code/kicad/-/issues/
<https://gitlab.com/kicad/code/kicad/-/issues/> - you can
> search for related issues there, or start a new one.
>
> Hope this helps
>
> -Kliment
>
> On 29.02.24 08:56, 'Rafał Pietrak' via KiCad Developers wrote:
>> Hi Oliver,
>>
>> The subject somehow died out, but I'd like to followup:
>> 1. I've looked up current kicad github for guidance, and it looks
>> pretty "overpopulated" - lots of small repositories without any
sort
>> of "oversight". Many marked as "legacy", but still visible ...
and in
>> consequence creating "information noise".
>> 2. so i might have missed a place where such discussion
(documentation
>> gathering) currently takes place - pls advice.
>> 3. if there is none and I create one, how do I invite kicad (and
other
>> tools) users to join the discussion?
>> 4. is there a naming convention to use for a project, or
"multiboard"
>> would be just fine?
>>
>> -R
>>
>> W dniu 26.02.2024 o 19:22, 'White Fox' via KiCad Developers pisze:
>>> Hi Rafal
>>>
>>> Well, this seems to me exactly like what I would start with,
thank you.
>>> Where is this snippet from? I can't remember such an email
thread here.
>>>
>>> greetings
>>> Oliver
>>>
>>> Am 26.02.2024 um 19:12 schrieb 'Rafał Pietrak' via KiCad
Developers:
>>>> Dear everybody,
>>>>
>>>> W dniu 26.02.2024 o 15:47, Jon Evans pisze:
>>>> [----------------]
>>>>>
>>>>> For "multiboard projects" I think if you ask 5 people, you will
>>>>> possibly get 5 different answers about what this feature
means, and
>>>>> what they want to do with it.
>>>>> So, figuring this out (and getting it documented) is a good
first
>>>>> step.
>>>>
>>>> If that could be of any help, and should anybody have already
ideas
>>>> and/or experience regarding multiboard design in form of loose
>>>> comments or discussion, I can gather those into an initial
>>>> documentation and put it on a github somewhere.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -R
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Das Nötige ist einfach und das Komplizierte unnötig
>>> -Michail Kalaschnikow
>>>
>>>
>>> As a german, please let me tell you: Germans are not rude.
>>> If you invite a german to have lunch with you and he says simply
>>> 'No', be assured that he means:
>>> «I'm so glad that you ask me to spend lunch time with you, I'm
sure
>>> it would be a great time,
>>> but unfortunately, I'm deeply sorry for that, I have a meeting
with
>>> my boss and a few minutes later,
>>> I promised our most important customer a call.
>>> And moreover, I'm a little embarassed for that, I feel a bit sick
>>> today, maybe I'm not a good lunch companion today.
>>> But I really hope so that we can share this great time another
time.»
>>>
>>> The reason for this kind of highly efficient conversation,
which is
>>> typical for germans, is quite simple:
>>> He knows that you are probably very busy with highly important
business,
>>> and it is a special kind of German courtesy not to want to
waste your
>>> precious time.
>>> So please, don't misunderstand short and precise communication as
>>> rowdyness.
>>>
>>
>
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