Marius Dumitru Florea wrote: > Thomas Mortagne wrote: >> Hi devs, >> >> We have to make a decision about that. >> >> So here are the proposals: >> >> 1) remove the block leading and trainling spaces >> * The main goal is to make source formatting for tables for example >> more readable >> >> 2) make the spaces inside paragraph non meaningfull >> * Meaning an HTML like behavior where multiple spaces give one space >> >> 3) in case of 1) or 2) use ~<space> as non breaking space >> >> WDYT ? > > -0, the users will blame the WYSIWYG for messing up their nicely > formatted table/lists/etc. when switching between the editors. This will > make the WYSIWYG unusable for a wiki syntax user.
1/ this problem was there already and, if we use meaningful spaces, we only get rid of the problem because users wouldn't be able to nicely format the tables/lists/etc at all. So meaningful spaces means that you're taking away the possibility of nicely formated wiki syntax even to users that use _only_ wiki syntax and therefore could take advantage of it. 2/ as it was mentioned in a discussion we once had with Vincent, I'm wondering how many wiki syntax users will there be out there once we get the new wysiwyg strong enough. Otherwise put, is this use-case frequent enough? Happy coding, Anca > > Marius > >> +0,5 for 1) it's not critical for me but i'm not against it and we >> already decided to remove space before list item, headers etc. >> -0 for 2) I don't see the need for that and it's a lot easier for the >> parser to make spaces meaningfull (what to do when you have "test ** >> bold**" and things like that) >> +1 for 3) >> >> On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 15:44, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> This is our last chance to change this behavior. We've found several >>> places where having meaningful spaces are counter-productive: >>> >>> * in table cells since we can't align table anymore. For example: >>> >>> |= column1 |= column2 >>> | this is some para | second column >>> | hello | world >>> >>> (not sure this will be rendered nicely in mail but you see what I mean) >>> >>> * in scripts since having meaningful spaces prevents us from aligning >>> velocity or groovy scripts. For ex we can't write: >>> >>> #if (....) >>> #if (...) >>> do something >>> # end >>> #end >>> >>> To see a better example have a look at http://tinyurl.com/ahz669 >>> >>> What I think users real want are meaningful new lines but I see cons >>> overweighting pros for having meaningful white spaces. Thus I'm think >>> we should strip whitespaces at beginning and end of lines including >>> for line breaks. >>> I'm slightly less sure for multiple spaces between words but even >>> there I think we could strip them have users use {{{ }}} to put a non >>> breaking space for ex (or introduce a {{space/}} macro or another >>> special syntax although I'd rather we don't introduce a new syntax). >>> >>> WDYT? >>> >>> Thanks >>> -Vincent >>> http://xwiki.com >>> http://xwiki.org >>> http://massol.net >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> devs mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs >>> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > devs mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
