Anca Paula Luca wrote: > Anca Paula Luca wrote: >> Marius Dumitru Florea wrote: >>> Thomas Mortagne wrote: >>>> Hi devs, >>>> >>>> We have to make a decision about that. >>>> >>>> So here are the proposals: >>>> >>>> 1) remove the block leading and trainling spaces >>>> * The main goal is to make source formatting for tables for example >>>> more readable >>>> >>>> 2) make the spaces inside paragraph non meaningfull >>>> * Meaning an HTML like behavior where multiple spaces give one space >>>> >>>> 3) in case of 1) or 2) use ~<space> as non breaking space >>>> >>>> WDYT ? >>> -0, the users will blame the WYSIWYG for messing up their nicely >>> formatted table/lists/etc. when switching between the editors. This will >>> make the WYSIWYG unusable for a wiki syntax user. >> 1/ this problem was there already > > with the old syntax I meant > >> and, if we use meaningful spaces, we only get >> rid of the problem because users wouldn't be able to nicely format the >> tables/lists/etc at all. So meaningful spaces means that you're taking away >> the >> possibility of nicely formated wiki syntax even to users that use _only_ >> wiki >> syntax and therefore could take advantage of it. >> >> 2/ as it was mentioned in a discussion we once had with Vincent, I'm >> wondering >> how many wiki syntax users will there be out there once we get the new >> wysiwyg >> strong enough.
There always will be developers for that (even if not necessarily through the wiki editor but rather through XEclipse or bespin's editor). I have doubts about scripting velocity or groovy in a dialog box in the wysiwyg :) My 2 cents, Jerome. >> Otherwise put, is this use-case frequent enough? >> >> Happy coding, >> Anca >> >>> Marius >>> >>>> +0,5 for 1) it's not critical for me but i'm not against it and we >>>> already decided to remove space before list item, headers etc. >>>> -0 for 2) I don't see the need for that and it's a lot easier for the >>>> parser to make spaces meaningfull (what to do when you have "test ** >>>> bold**" and things like that) >>>> +1 for 3) >>>> >>>> On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 15:44, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> This is our last chance to change this behavior. We've found several >>>>> places where having meaningful spaces are counter-productive: >>>>> >>>>> * in table cells since we can't align table anymore. For example: >>>>> >>>>> |= column1 |= column2 >>>>> | this is some para | second column >>>>> | hello | world >>>>> >>>>> (not sure this will be rendered nicely in mail but you see what I mean) >>>>> >>>>> * in scripts since having meaningful spaces prevents us from aligning >>>>> velocity or groovy scripts. For ex we can't write: >>>>> >>>>> #if (....) >>>>> #if (...) >>>>> do something >>>>> # end >>>>> #end >>>>> >>>>> To see a better example have a look at http://tinyurl.com/ahz669 >>>>> >>>>> What I think users real want are meaningful new lines but I see cons >>>>> overweighting pros for having meaningful white spaces. Thus I'm think >>>>> we should strip whitespaces at beginning and end of lines including >>>>> for line breaks. >>>>> I'm slightly less sure for multiple spaces between words but even >>>>> there I think we could strip them have users use {{{ }}} to put a non >>>>> breaking space for ex (or introduce a {{space/}} macro or another >>>>> special syntax although I'd rather we don't introduce a new syntax). >>>>> >>>>> WDYT? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks >>>>> -Vincent >>>>> http://xwiki.com >>>>> http://xwiki.org >>>>> http://massol.net >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> devs mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs >>>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> devs mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs >> _______________________________________________ >> devs mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > _______________________________________________ > devs mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
