Correction, the above are Oracle builds, not OpenJDK :) On Mon, May 14, 2018 at 11:49 AM, Eduard Moraru <[email protected]> wrote:
> AFAIR, Eclipse also does this (i.e. bundle their own JRE), we could look > into how they do it. > > On a quick check, OpenJDK's JRE is only 38.4 MB ( > http://jdk.java.net/java-se-ri/8) ... I find that acceptable. > > FTR, the JDK is 164 MB. > > Thanks, > Eduard > > On Mon, May 14, 2018 at 11:40 AM, Thomas Mortagne < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> One issue with embedded Java (OpenJDK I guess) is that it would make >> the zip quite huge. >> >> On Mon, May 14, 2018 at 10:30 AM, Eduard Moraru <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > Hi, >> > >> > On the palliative side (i.e. not actually fixing, but at least making >> life >> > a bit easier), we might consider a naming scheme for the downloadable >> that >> > includes that supported java version, e.g. xwiki-10.3-java8.zip (though >> > this might also lead users to thinking that the java 8 runtime is >> > included... which might not be that bad of an idea, if we think about >> it... >> > at least for the zip version that is for demo purposes, which already >> > contains the web server, the database, but still expects the user to >> > understand and install the correct Java runtime, which makes no sense.) >> > >> > So, yeah... TL;DR: add the java8 runtime to the .zip package and make >> life >> > easier for everyone. Optionally (though not sure if needed anymore, if >> we >> > bundle it), include it in the .zip file name. >> > >> > Of course, the production install, if done manually (i.e. not through >> > .deb/.rpm packages), expects that the user reads the documentation. >> > >> > Thanks, >> > Eduard >> > >> > On Mon, May 14, 2018 at 10:19 AM, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > >> >> Hi devs, here’s a feedback we received, FYI. >> >> >> >> Ideas? >> >> >> >> Thanks >> >> -Vincent >> >> >> >> > Begin forwarded message: >> >> > >> >> > From: Vincent Massol >> >> > Subject: Re: Get started with XWiki >> >> > Date: 14 May 2018 at 09:10:06 CEST >> >> > To: XXX >> >> > Cc: XXX >> >> > >> >> > Hi Christian, >> >> > >> >> >> On 12 May 2018, at 14:25, Christian XXX wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> It's not working. >> >> >> >> >> >> And as usual ith java, the log does not help. Maybe if I were an >> >> expert? But an app is supposed to be installed by just 'smart' users, >> not >> >> experts. >> >> > >> >> > If you choose the easy installation methods we propose then it’s easy >> >> and you have nothing to do. >> >> > >> >> > Which distribution did you choose and use? >> >> > >> >> >> And there is no help from the website. >> >> >> >> >> >> Oracle Linux 7. >> >> >> Linux localhost.localdomain 4.1.12-124.14.5.el7uek.x86_64 #2 SMP Fri >> >> May 4 15:26:53 PDT 2018 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux >> >> >> Java 10 >> >> >> Xwiki 10.3 >> >> >> tomcat. >> >> >> >> >> >> If it is not compatible whith this java. It should not install. >> >> > >> >> > It’s just not been tested with Java 10 yet. It’s not even fully >> working >> >> with Java 9. >> >> > >> >> > Note that it’s hard to check for the java version for all the >> >> distributions since XWiki is a webapp and the XWiki WAR can just be >> dropped >> >> in a servlet container and thus we don’t have a startup script and a >> place >> >> where we can put a check. All we could do is have a Servlet Listener >> that >> >> would emit a big stack trace (like the one you got) and that would say >> at >> >> the innermost level that XWiki requires Java <= 8. But even that >> wouldn’t >> >> be good since it would prevent testing in Java 9+. We want feedback >> from >> >> users about what works/what doesn’t work so improve support for Java 9 >> and >> >> 10. >> >> > >> >> >> If it is compatible with only one version of java, which one? >> >> > >> >> > You need to read the installation page ;) >> >> > >> >> > See http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Documentation/ >> >> AdminGuide/Installation/ and especially: >> >> > http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Documentation/ >> >> AdminGuide/Installation/#HHardwareandSoftwarerequirements >> >> > >> >> >> Here is the error: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Error number 4001 in 4: Error while evaluating velocity template >> >> colorThemeInit.vm >> >> >> Error number 4001 in 4: Error while evaluating velocity template >> >> colorThemeInit.vm >> >> >> com.xpn.xwiki.XWikiException: Error number 4001 in 4: Error while >> >> evaluating velocity template colorThemeInit.vm >> >> > >> >> > [snip] >> >> > >> >> >> Caused by: java.lang.IllegalStateException: No standard field found >> >> for reverse order comparator! >> >> >> at org.jboss.marshalling.river.Protocol.<clinit>(Protocol. >> >> java:276) >> >> >> ... 249 mor >> >> > >> >> > [snip >> >> > >> >> >> Caused by: java.lang.IllegalStateException: No standard field found >> >> for reverse order comparator! >> >> >> at org.jboss.marshalling.river.Protocol.<clinit>(Protocol. >> >> java:276) >> >> >> ... 249 mor >> >> > >> >> > What this says is that JBoss Infinispan (which we use) is not >> compatible >> >> with Java 10. Apparently this is fixed in recent version of JBoss >> >> Marshalling: https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBMAR-216. We probably >> just >> >> need to wait for JBoss Infinispan to release a new version that uses >> JBoss >> >> Marshalling 2.1.0.Final. >> >> > >> >> > What would be awesome would be for you to report the problem of using >> >> XWiki with Java 10 on https://jira.xwiki.org so that we can have an >> issue >> >> for it and work to make it work. >> >> > >> >> > Note that I’m replying to this message to help you out but it’s not >> the >> >> right place to post a question and get help normally. For that we have >> a >> >> user forum at https://forum.xwiki.org/. >> >> > >> >> > I’m sorry you had some issues. OTOH you’re looking for trouble by >> trying >> >> with Java 10. There are very few (if any!) java app that currently work >> >> with Java 9 and 10. You’d be much better off using Java 8. On the >> positive >> >> side, if you raise the issue on https://jira.xwiki.org, then you will >> >> transform your negative experience into a positive one, by >> contributing to >> >> the development of XWiki and helping out future users. >> >> > >> >> > Thanks >> >> > -Vincent Massol >> >> >> >> [snip] >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Thomas Mortagne >> > >
