Todd,

We're talking about what would be proposed for new standards. That means
new browsers. Old browsers, and old computers, will always be behind. So
the problem you're talking about is economic, mainly.

It seems to me that just turning off style sheets and 'living with it'
is a great way to perpetuate the divide. If the problem is that *older
machines* cannot run the newer browsers, then turning off style sheets
is a temporary measure.

The fact that the majority of older browsers did NOT pay attention to
W3C standards is an extremely important point in this regard. So maybe
getting people access to the internet on old machines isn't enough in
some instances. Sometimes they need the machines that support the
software that are Open Standard compliant. And THAT should be the bare
minimum of entry.

Tossing computers at problems without understanding problems is a famous
business mistake. First you have to define what the requirements for the
systems are. If the systems are to be used on the internet to visit
sites that have W3C compliant style sheets, then guess what? That's what
you NEED.

Todd Seal wrote:

> I am very familiar with the W3C, but what does that have to do with
> anything?
>
> Is it too much to ask that folk with older browsers simply turn off
> style sheets? We want to cross the digital divide, right? It's
> frustrating to surf on an older computer because sites are all messed
> up and content is hard to read. That's disempowering to some who may
> want to start a blog and voice their opinions but are stymied by old
> technology. To remove that block, turn off style sheets. What's the
> problem with that?
>
> If not that, then what *are* the "browser standards" being proposed? I
> still argue that "browser standards" has been misinterpreted on this
> thread. If we are, indeed, discussing browser standards, the W3C is
> beginning to address that, no? If browser companies were to read the
> W3C specs and build browsers that interpreted code according to those
> specs, would that achieve the desired effect?
>
> What about all those people out there that currently have NS4.5 and
> CANNOT upgrade due to low processors? What are we doing to make the
> internet accessible for them? That's why I brought coding standards
> into this discussion, because all we can do for the NS4.5 people is
> code better. If someone is stuck with an old browser, we need to take
> that browser into consideration when designing and coding sites.
> That's the idea that I read as the original intent of this thread.
> -todd seal
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> >From: Taran Rampersad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> >To: The Digital Divide Network discussion
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> >Subject: Re: [DDN] Current browser standards for international
> audiences
> >Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 17:47:07 -0500
> >
> >Todd Seal wrote:
> >
> > > Hrm... I'm responding to this is relation to a digital
> divide, not a
> > > future case scenario. It was suggested that blogging
> software, a means
> > > by which just about anyone should be able to communicate
> their ideas,
> > > wasn't working in some browsers. From where I stand
> (ideologically),
> > > that's not the case.
> >
> >Are you at all familiar with the W3C?
> >
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