On Thursday, 20 August 2020 at 18:13:46 UTC, ddcovery wrote:
Last month I decided it was time to start a new project (my own
company) and I reviewed some languages/frameworks for web
development (REST services, image processing, PDF generation,
...): Java based ones (I'm experienced with
scala/playframework and spring/java, and Kotlin is really
nice), c# and Net core, Node/Typescript (Last 6 years I have
been mainly a node backend developer) and, finally, native
ones (GO, Rust and D... I developed some windows apps in 90's
using Symantec C++ but 20 years are a really long time).
[...]
Finally I'm using Rust (with Rocket and Diesel): it's my money
folks :).
Recently I too started to look at web frameworks for compiled
languages. Currently playing with Free Pascal - fast compiler,
several web frameworks to evaluate, and Object Pascal is easy to
pick up. At the same time I checked out D and Vibe, and was put
off by the control-c thing.
I prefer to deploy my programs as Alpine Linux Docker containers.
Good that D is already available for Alpine. For the hello world
Vibe example, on my Ubuntu 20.04 laptop:
% ls -l helloworld.*
-rwxr-xr-x 3 pierce pierce 8664832 Aug 23 14:04 helloworld.dmd*
-rwxr-xr-x 3 pierce pierce 2858944 Aug 23 14:04 helloworld.ldc*
The Docker images created by multistage builds:
% sudo docker images | egrep hellow
helloworld ldc 86be59503802 6 hours
ago 114MB
helloworld dmd d377c0ab97ec 6 hours
ago 19.6MB
Is the huge size difference to be expected?
For both DMD and LDC, the Docker image building process took
long. Does the following mean that everything was downloaded and
built each time? Possible to structure the Dockerfile so that
some bits get cached, as per "the Docker way"? (For Free Pascal,
executables built on Ubuntu run on Alpine as is with the
libc6-compat package, so building Docker images is really fast
since it just involves copying a few files and reuses some cached
Docker layers.)
---> Running in a95e6ef7a8c1
Fetching vibe-core 1.9.3 (getting selected version)...
Fetching botan-math 1.0.3 (getting selected version)...
Fetching taggedalgebraic 0.11.16 (getting selected version)...
Fetching vibe-d 0.9.0 (getting selected version)...
Fetching memutils 1.0.4 (getting selected version)...
Fetching stdx-allocator 2.77.5 (getting selected version)...
Fetching botan 1.12.18 (getting selected version)...
Fetching diet-ng 1.7.2 (getting selected version)...
Fetching openssl 1.1.6+1.0.1g (getting selected version)...
Fetching eventcore 0.9.7 (getting selected version)...
Fetching mir-linux-kernel 1.0.1 (getting selected version)...
Fetching libasync 0.8.6 (getting selected version)...
Running pre-generate commands for vibe-d:tls...
Performing "release" build using ldc2 for x86_64.
taggedalgebraic 0.11.16: building configuration "library"...
eventcore 0.9.7: building configuration "epoll"...
stdx-allocator 2.77.5: building configuration "library"...
vibe-core 1.9.3: building configuration "epoll"...
vibe-d:utils 0.9.0: building configuration "library"...
vibe-d:data 0.9.0: building configuration "library"...
mir-linux-kernel 1.0.1: building configuration "library"...
vibe-d:crypto 0.9.0: building configuration "library"...
diet-ng 1.7.2: building configuration "library"...
vibe-d:stream 0.9.0: building configuration "library"...
vibe-d:textfilter 0.9.0: building configuration "library"...
vibe-d:inet 0.9.0: building configuration "library"...
vibe-d:tls 0.9.0: building configuration "openssl"...
vibe-d:http 0.9.0: building configuration "library"...
/usr/include/d/std/conv.d(4614,38): Deprecation: constructor
`vibe.stream.wrapper.ProxyStream.this` is deprecated - Use
createProxyStream instead.
/usr/include/d/std/conv.d(4618,21): Deprecation: constructor
`vibe.stream.wrapper.ProxyStream.this` is deprecated - Use
createProxyStream instead.
/usr/include/d/std/range/primitives.d(174,38): Deprecation:
`alias byKeyValue this` is deprecated - Iterate over .byKeyValue
instead.
/usr/include/d/std/range/primitives.d(176,27): Deprecation:
`alias byKeyValue this` is deprecated - Iterate over .byKeyValue
instead.
/usr/include/d/std/range/primitives.d(174,38): Deprecation:
`alias byKeyValue this` is deprecated - Iterate over .byKeyValue
instead.
/usr/include/d/std/range/primitives.d(176,27): Deprecation:
`alias byKeyValue this` is deprecated - Iterate over .byKeyValue
instead.
vibe-d:mail 0.9.0: building configuration "library"...
vibe-d:mongodb 0.9.0: building configuration "library"...
/usr/include/d/std/format.d(3645,26): Deprecation: function
`std.typecons.Nullable!string.Nullable.get_` is deprecated -
Implicit conversion with `alias Nullable.get this` will be
removed after 2.096. Please use `.get` explicitly.
/usr/include/d/std/format.d(3645,26): Deprecation: function
`std.typecons.Nullable!(Alternate).Nullable.get_` is deprecated -
Implicit conversion with `alias Nullable.get this` will be
removed after 2.096. Please use `.get` explicitly.
/usr/include/d/std/format.d(3645,26): Deprecation: function
`std.typecons.Nullable!(MaxVariable).Nullable.get_` is deprecated
- Implicit conversion with `alias Nullable.get this` will be
removed after 2.096. Please use `.get` explicitly.
/usr/include/d/std/format.d(3645,26): Deprecation: function
`std.typecons.Nullable!string.Nullable.get_` is deprecated -
Implicit conversion with `alias Nullable.get this` will be
removed after 2.096. Please use `.get` explicitly.
/usr/include/d/std/format.d(3645,26): Deprecation: function
`std.typecons.Nullable!(Alternate).Nullable.get_` is deprecated -
Implicit conversion with `alias Nullable.get this` will be
removed after 2.096. Please use `.get` explicitly.
/usr/include/d/std/format.d(3645,26): Deprecation: function
`std.typecons.Nullable!(MaxVariable).Nullable.get_` is deprecated
- Implicit conversion with `alias Nullable.get this` will be
removed after 2.096. Please use `.get` explicitly.
vibe-d:redis 0.9.0: building configuration "library"...
vibe-d:web 0.9.0: building configuration "library"...
vibe-d 0.9.0: building configuration "vibe-core"...
