Bill Baxter wrote:
On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 7:26 AM, BCS<a...@pathlink.com>  wrote:
Reply to Nick,

"Yigal Chripun"<yigal...@gmail.com>  wrote in message
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Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:

BCS wrote:

Hello bearophile,

I've taken a look at the syntax for lambda in other C-like
languages. This is from Functional Java:
http://functionaljava.org/examples#Array.filter

In Functional Java you can write this D syntax:
(int i, int j) { return i % 3 == j; }
as:
{ int i, int j =>  i % 3 == j }
That syntax, and a few of the below, show the one major gripe I
have with ultra-compact lambdas: it's hard to *quickly* spot the
args/code transition.

Strings are immune from the problem. :o) Also they make for readily
recognizable code because they all use the same argument names.

Andrei

Personally I prefer to have syntax for "blocks" like Ruby/smalltalk.
given the following example function:
int func(int a, delegate int(int) dg) { .. }
// call func with [something in this spirit is my favorite]:
func(someInt) { | int a, int b | return a+b; };

compare with the current D syntax:
func( someInt, (int a, int b) {return a+b;} );
compare with a lamda syntax:
func(someInt, { int a, int b =>  a+b } );
blocks are more useful - they are not limited to just one expression,
and I think are a more general construct. lamdas/array comps, are
just special cases.

Agreed. This is what I had always been ultimately hoping for. I'd be
happy with the string stuff if that "wrong scope" issue gets fixed
(that I mentioned in another branch of this thread), but I'd still
prefer this (especially if the types for the params could somehow be
inferred and omitted like this: )

).

Why use this:

"func(someInt) { |a,b| return a+b; };"

when you can reuse syntax and get this for the same amount of typeing

"func(someInt) (a,b){ return a+b; };"

I was about to say the same thing, but I think Yigal was just mixing
two distinct suggestions together:
1) the trailing delegates proposal (aka ruby block) and
2) A ruby-like syntax for delegate literals : {|a,b| return a+b;}

--bb

not exactly. the reason why I changed the syntax like that is because of templates. for example:
void func(T, int i)(T a, delegate int(int) dg) {...}
with your and BCS' proposal the above would be called like so:

func!(SomeType, 15)(someVar)(a,b){ return a+b; };

this is less clear, IMO.

besides, I really like Ruby's (and before that Smalltalk's) syntax to handle this. <g>

to Nick -
you mentioned the scoping problem with strings. Personally I *HATE* this use of strings. it has many issues which I already mentioned in previous posts. to specifically address your point - what your looking for is called "Hygienic Macros" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hygienic_macros

basically you want to control which arguments to your AST macro are evaluated at which scope. This i'd like to see implemented in D when AST macros are added.

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