Jussi Jumppanen wrote: > Jason House Wrote: > >> For example, as an emacs user, I can easilly program for an hour >> without touching my mouse. > > I would say 'not using the mouse' is clear sign the programmer is > coding using a programmer's editor and not a modern day IDE.
That's true, but that really wasn't the point... I was more trying to make a point about how different some things can be. > I would also say many Windows programmers are completely lost > without their IDE, and this can makes them less productive as a > developer. As Andrei said, it's likely to take a lot of use to get back to prior productivity levels... It takes a lot of work to shift to unix and be comfortable. I'm not really sure what makes Andrei think unix is so much better for productivity :) Maybe it's something along the lines of learning a new programming language in order to expand your programming skill set... > They could make themselves better programmers by overcoming their > addiction to the IDE. > > http://www.charlespetzold.com/etc/DoesVisualStudioRotTheMind.html > > But programming on Windows without a mouse driven, language specific > IDE, using nothing but the command line and a good editor is possible > and really quite easy to do. > >> As a commandline utility, it can be combined with other stuff such >> as ls, sort, grep, sed, awk, etc... I don't know if I'd start there >> though... > > Replace ls with dir, download the Win32 version of grep, sed, awk > and you can run all those tools just fine from the Windows command > line, or from within any decent editor. > > You don't have to go to Unix to find the command line. When on windows, that's exactly what I do. After having used them enough, I can't live without them. It's a real shame that my current job tries to provide a unified framework and completely destroyed all utility of the command line. I'm not allowed to download cygwin. ugh...