On Sunday, 27 January 2013 at 15:42:40 UTC, TommiT wrote:
On Sunday, 27 January 2013 at 15:22:34 UTC, Dicebot wrote:
And how it is any better? Also D sources are unicode, so last two are possible just now and you need no special keyboard for it. Still the same good old text.

I don't know if what I invented is any better, but my attempt was to make something that's easier to read and less ambiguous than plain text. For example parenthesis would be used only to define the order in which expressions are evaluated, and _not_ to indicate a section of arguments.

But are you really arguing that: "there can be nothing better than plain text for programmers to declare their intent". I wonder why we even have graphic operating systems, if graphic elements don't make thing easier to use and understand.

To me, saying that "D is bad language, because in order to most effectively write and understand the code requires some dedicated software" is like saying "Avid is a bad editing software, because using it most effectively requires some custom keyboard". You can write and understand D code, where parentheses of nullary function calls have been omitted, in notepad - it just may not be most optimal environment. Just like you can use Avid with a regular keyboard, it just may not be most optimal to do so (unless you remember all the keys by heart already).

More noise -> not easier to read. It may has a merit when designing grammar unambiguous for reader with limited symbol count is impossible but otherwise simple unambiguous representation beats complex one. Also your proposal is not very different from plain text, it is about on the level of syntax highlighting.

We do have graphic operating systems and power users still do use consoles/shells for advanced operating system-related work. Because graphic elements are easier to understand, but harder (less efficient) to use. I am perfectly fine with relaxed mouse clicking when I am browsing or watching films or whatever, but when I do work - please, give me a pair of my trusted text shells.

I don't know what Avid is but if it requires custom keyboard for proper usage - it is either bad or targeted to users with weak computer competence (and googling shows it is some audio editing stuff, this second option is likely).

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