On Sunday, 8 September 2013 at 21:08:59 UTC, Iain Buclaw wrote:
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Against because we need a solution for *all* major platforms
(Lx32, Lx64,
*BSD, apple, w32,w64) and I'm worried that this resolution
here might lead
to a "So, we *do* have an IDE. Case closed" attitude.
Why not cross-platform instead of *just* the major platforms?
:o)
Because I have saved at least some crumbs of being realistic *g
I'm btw. *not* against Visual$$ and I *do* know and respect that
it has a lot of happy and productive followers. MS has definitely
done something quite right there.
My point isn't "Ignore Visual$$! Hehe" but rather "Please, make
sure to have happy linux and BSD users, too!".
On Sunday, 8 September 2013 at 21:21:37 UTC, Iain Buclaw wrote:
On 8 September 2013 22:00, Ramon <s...@thanks.no> wrote:
Just for the sake of completeness:
mono is *detested* and considered even more inacceptable than
java by many
linux and (even more) *BSD users.
Swings in roundabouts. Also depends what you mean by detest and
inacceptable...
I'm, afraid it has shown to be quite senseless to resolve such
issues by analysing and discussing adjectives.
From an ethical viewpoint, I think most of it is FUD that still
lingers from back when there was confusion over what Microsoft
was
going to do C# (there was for a long time fear that it would
drive all
free C# implementations underground). But all that mist has
been
cleared for a while, and I don't believe this represents the
overall
view of users/developers - except for those who are still stuck
in
2008 mindset.
Then let me inform you from a practical viewpoint that I'm not
stupid and ignorant enough to automatically refuse anything from
MS just because it's from MS. I don't like them and I don't trust
them a nanometer but I recognize (even publicly) and respect when
they do something well - like Visual$$.
I'm btw. also advising clients in ca. 85% of cases to forget
about Linux on the desktop and to use Windoze.
My reasons to "paranoically" avoid Windoze for *myself* are not
political or religious but purely pragmatic.
tl;dr One is grossly mistaken when seeing myself as linux-taliban
like anti-MS.
I've talked to Miguel in person and I have solid reasons to not
consider or touch Mono. Kindly note that I'm not fudding or
preaching against it - I simply state that I and many others will
not, no matter matter what, touch it.
Mono/C# as a language may be detested for technically sound
reasons however...
Indeed. And those reasons might sometimes even be related to Mono.
A+ -R
