C++'s lack of finally didn't do any favors for exception
handling's popularity, either. (Has "finally" finally been
added?)
Just noting: exceptions are rarely used in gamedev.
Also I agree with Bjarne RIAA is preferable to finally in the C++
context, finally makes more sense in a language with GC for
dealing with none memory resources.
You say the industry isn't likely to produce its own tools.
While I'm in no position to disagree, I am surprised to hear
that since the industry is known to produce some of its own
middleware. EA is said to have a fairly sophisticated in-house
UI authoring system, and of course they have Frostbite. Various
studios have developed in-house engines, and many of the
big-name ones (ex, Unreal Engine, Source, CryEngine) started
out as in-house projects.
Would you say those are more exceptional cases, or did you mean
something more specific by "tools"?
Yeah I should clarify. I'm not really speaking of middleware or
engines; gamedev produces plenty of that, but always in bog
standard C or C++.
What I don't see, is the game industry producing a programming
language that would be adopted outside of the company that
produced it. Or assisting in the development of an existing one.
Despite their being (guessing here) tens of thousands of
professional C++ game developers, are any of them attending ISO
C++ meetings? I doubt it.
If a game studio does produce anything resembling a
language/associated tools it would very like proprietary.
-Take Epic, they created Unreal script(barf), nobody else uses
it. Epic has abandoned it in UE4.
-Naughty Dog, they had a custom lisp based development at one
point, nobody else used it, I believe they now use Racket to
generate C++
That is some *crazy*, impressive, *herculean*-effort stuff.
CLEARLY, significant parts of the game industry genuinely
understand the importance of investments into technology. And
yet...all the complaining they do about C++ and they *still*
won't write the language they want?
Some of this comes from the proprietary tooling they end up
using on each platform. It is supplied by the platform owner.
Language wise, you get a C++ compiler, and not necessary a very
good one.
Making a clean replacement for C++ isn't really enough.
Any C++ replacement has to interop well with C++ because of the
existing mountain of C++ based middleware, libraries, and engines.
Several *years* ago, I was under the impression that problem had
finally been changing? Is that not so?
My experience is that is has changed for the better. I'm in the
Western US though, and Manu is (I believe) in Australia.
If a studio tried to make me crunch extra hours without pay I'd
just refuse, finding a different job isn't that hard /shrug.
I switched to web development, where I work roughly 9-5 for a
good
salary, and I never looked back.
The state of California passed laws after the EA spouse case, so
if you work in California or for a CA based company they cannot
legally make you work more than 40 hrs/week. Scummy places may
try to get more hours out of you by applying peer pressure or
some such crap, but they cannot legally do so-
