+1
you are wright. i think, on the chance of being "Willoughbeed",
that there needs to be a real plan.
It must include window users and a windows usable sdk.
On Thursday, 1 January 2015 at 10:48:10 UTC, Joakim wrote:
On Monday, 29 December 2014 at 19:11:04 UTC, Andrei
Alexandrescu wrote:
On 12/29/14 10:58 AM, Joakim wrote:
It also means more people asking for stuff, then doing
nothing to
contribute towards it, as though the D community is their
slave labor.
If we, the D community, want D to succeed, we must change this
attitude. -- Andrei
I was just going to let this go without answering, as it's
ambiguous, but since Dicebot just said something similar to
what I'd have said, I'll bite. What do you mean by this? That
the people asking for stuff then doing nothing have to change
their attitude or those in the D community, like Dicebot and
me, who point out that their approach is unrealistic should
change our attitude?
And regardless of your answer to that question, what do you see
as "success" for D and how do you plan to get there, given what
you know now? It's possible that it's already a success for
the community, as it works well enough for the thousands using
and handful contributing to it, and they do not see your
million-user goal as worth putting effort into.
I'll note that I'd like to see D reach a million users, and I'm
doing my small part by trying to get it on the gigantic Android
install base, but my desire and single new port doesn't mean
much since those will not be enough to get D to a million, and
I'm not interested in working on Windows tooling or some other
issues that might get it there.
Similarly, whatever the definition of success is, whether yours
or the community's, it's meaningless without a plan and a push
to get there. I know you can't make people follow your plan,
assuming you have one (not a dig, you just may not know how to
get to a million yet), but you can still sketch out some
specific efforts that you'd like to enable (more user bounties
or better ways to get input from commercial users or a
much-improved GC, which you have said you'd push for in a
reddit comment) or put out a public agenda/roadmap you'd like
to see prioritized.
Without some purposeful steps in the direction of your
"success," the D community is unlikely to randomly amble along
towards where you're hoping, at least not in the next couple
decades. ;)