On Monday, 26 January 2015 at 22:05:55 UTC, Laeeth Isharc wrote:
I don't know F#. I know what you mean, but I don't think the
competition to D consists of crappy languages - there are some
very smart and creative people with large resources working on
them (putting aside the question of the tone one should adopt
in public towards peers).
That's exactly what I'm saying. Against C or C++, D looks
fantastic. But those aren't great languages. But what's the
argument for D beyond that? How can people using non-awful
languages be persuaded to even have interest?
It's not for me to say, but D isn't a product like toothpaste
where you are trying to elbow aside the competition, but one
where it needs to be the best 'D' it can be, and communicate
that well to people and make it easy for them to take advantage
of what it has to offer.
And that's what bugs me; that even if D is good and has a lot to
offer, the pitch doesn't communicate it well. The important part
of that exchange that I hoped people would fixate on was this:
"I don't understand what the point of D is either because once
you've already accepted a GC there are better languages you could
use."
This indicates to me that there's a problem of messaging.
On Tuesday, 27 January 2015 at 02:39:03 UTC, bachmeier wrote:
Which language today does something that's not done by any
other language?
INTERCAL has politeness. But what are you actually trying to say
with this statement?
-Wyatt
