On Tuesday, 23 June 2015 at 08:49:45 UTC, Chris wrote:
On Saturday, 20 June 2015 at 17:10:27 UTC, Nick Sabalausky
wrote:
On 06/20/2015 12:34 PM, ketmar wrote:
On Sat, 20 Jun 2015 12:23:59 -0400, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
let's compare numbers for php, java, ruby, js -- and D. most
companies
will not bet on language for which a pool of "hireable"
developers is
small. and it's understandable: two developers quit, and the
project is
dead, doomed to complete rewrite in another language. sheesh!
Well, not really. I mean, managers and HR all *believe* that
to be so. But that's because pretty much all non-programmers,
even ones in the software dev industry who really should know
better, are stuck in this bizarre idea that programming skills
are somehow non-transferable between languages. Which is
obviously total bullcrap, but try explaining that to
self-assured HR folk and other pointy-hairs.
Hell, my first introduction to JS, ASP (yea, it was a long
time ago) and web-dev in general was on-the-job as a fresh
hire, and I was up to speed in like a week or so, if even that.
The one thing relevant here that has *never* left my mind:
http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/ThePerilsofJavaSchools.html
Favorite part:
"The recruiters-who-use-grep, by the way, are ridiculed here,
and for good reason. I have never met anyone who can do
Scheme, Haskell, and C pointers who can't pick up Java in two
days, and create better Java code than people with five years
of experience in Java, but try explaining that to the average
HR drone."
So true.
Yeah. A guy I know had a hard time finding a job with Java. HR
would always demand experience with this or that build tool and
stuff like this. As if you couldn't learn this in a week or
less, at least enough to be able to contribute to a project.
Actual programming skills never seemed to be really important.
Weird.
And as a consequence, we see:
http://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2015/06/the-time-needed-to-fill-jobs.html
The present state of hiring processes can't go on, and so it
won't.
http://www.amazon.com/Why-Good-People-Cant-Jobs-ebook/dp/B00850ZOKI
