On Thursday, 16 July 2015 at 12:44:22 UTC, Wyatt wrote:
Personally, I've dealt with perl, ruby, python, java, and php in the web space and as far as I'm concerned they're all unmaintainable trash. (perl, ironically, gave me the best experience of the five!)
What advantage can perl possibly have over Python? I ditched perl over 10 years ago and never looked back.
If I ever decide I'm masochistic enough to attempt something in that vein again, D is at least as strong a contender for me because it offers fast iteration, solid performance, and a type system that doesn't make me want to punch small animals.
Well, the development-server-framework I use reload automatically whenever I save a file, so I am for now happy with iteration speed as I don't perceive any delays worth thinking about.
With PyCharm I also get debugger/web server integration and the PyCharm background-sanitizer gets pretty close to having static typing actually. Impressive for a dynamic language! Wish I had picked it up earlier!
If you go node.js, you get static typing with typescript if you want + same language on the browser, debuggable.
If you go Dart you get static typing if you want + same language the browser, debuggable.
But in terms of programmer-productivity I think Python is hard to match in the webspace (for a wide range of reasons).
So I think you need to look at what exists _TODAY_ in the webspace, not what you used >3 years ago. That's history.
Go and Rust, for all their "theoretical superiority" in one place or another, _don't feel good_. Go is to C what Plan 9 is to Unix, which is to say it's a thoroughly unimaginitive, ideologically hampered, overly-conservative iteration from Rob Pike. Rust might be intriguing if it ever catches up to D in being pleasant to use.
I haven't used Go or Rust fulltime for the amount of time needed to get fully familiar with them (I guess that would take me 1-2 months fulltime or so).
So I can't really say whether what I feel as "oddities" now will persist. I felt that Cs syntax was odd too, when I came to it from Pascal/asm.
So I am more concerned about the feature set, my brain can usually get around "unusual" choices if there is syntactical and semantic consistency.
