On 06/06/2016 10:35 PM, Andrea Fontana wrote:
On Monday, 6 June 2016 at 02:20:52 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
Andrei posted this on another thread. I felt it deserved its own
thread. It's very important.
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I go to conferences. Train and consult at large companies. Dozens
every year, cumulatively thousands of people. I talk about D and ask
people what it would take for them to use the language. Invariably I
hear a surprisingly small number of reasons:
IMHO biggest problems are:
- There's no standard "de facto" cross-platform / up-to-date IDE with a
just working debugger. At least dub is doing a good job to uniform build
system. It would be very very useful for beginners and tutorials.
- We miss a lot of "standard" libraries. An example: in my company we
have a webservice used by my collegues to upload and store pictures
using AWS. It would be nice to convert it in D but we miss:
a) a standard way to listen in http or https (vibe.d could be ok: it
appers an overkill for me that I don't know it. I don't need all
template framework or mvc etc.).
b) a standard libary to manage pictures (we need to do some simple
operations - resize, cut etc)
c) support for aws api in d
d) support for db api in d (we need of course to store info in db).
The last point is ok in our case, because i wrote a binding for mongodb.
I wrote a simple fastcgi binding to solve first point. But b) and c) are
still waiting for a solution.
And, of course, this is a simple example. For a website or a GUI app a
lot of other things are missing. So I think the problem is not D itself
but the ecosystem.
Andrea
My goal is to get windowing + image library into Phobos. Do note that
this is not a GUI toolkit but definitely a major dependency.
I certainly do need help. Help is very much welcome[0].
@Manu Evans has a good work done for color[1].
But he is quite busy so its not ugh done yet.
[0] https://github.com/rikkimax/alphaPhobos
[1] https://github.com/dlang/phobos/pull/2845
