On 7/11/2016 7:23 PM, deadalnix wrote:
On Tuesday, 12 July 2016 at 01:28:31 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
I don't see anything actionable in your comment.

Defining by which way @safe actually ensure safety would be a good start.

I'm sorry for the frustration, but the "mention a problem, get asked for
an example, provide example, example is debated to death while problem
is ignored" cycle have become the typical interraction pattern around
here and that is VERY frustrating.


The example you gave of .ptr resulting in unsafe code has been in bugzilla since 2013, and has an open PR on it to fix it.

  https://issues.dlang.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11176

You didn't submit it to bugzilla - if you don't post problems to bugzilla, most likely they will get overlooked, and you will get frustrated. @safe issues are tagged with the 'safe' keyword in bugzilla. If you know of other bugs with @safe, and they aren't in the list, please add them. Saying generically that @safe has holes in it is useless information since it is not actionable and nobody keeps track of bugs posted on the n.g. nor are they even findable if you suspect they're there.

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If I may rant a bit, lots of posters here posit that with "more process", everything will go better. Meanwhile, we DO have process for bug reports. They go to bugzilla. Posting bugs to the n.g. does not work. More process doesn't work if people are unwilling to adhere to it.


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