On Sat, 2017-02-11 at 15:52 +0000, SC via Digitalmars-d wrote: > People here under estimate the necessity to have EXCELLENT editor > support > > Without editor, nobody will want to write code in D, there are > ton of languages now, all with great editor support (Rust, Go, > Kotlin, Scalla, C#, java, C/C++), people have choice
Cannot disagree with this. > There are 10 IDE/plugin project for d, this is too much, half are > already dead, we go nowhere, please focus on one that is > crossplatform (IntelliJ) It isn't the number of different projects that is the problem. The problem is the lack of effort going in to the Eclipse and the IntelliJ IDEA plugins. In terms of traction of D, having an excellent Eclipse perspective, and an excellent IntelliJ IDEA and CLion plugin is essential. Personally, I favour the IntelliJ IDEA and CLion IDEs. Work is progressing on the IntelliJ IDEA but it simply needs more people contributing actively – to my shame I haven't been able to put time into this myself, so I am contributing to the problem. This plugin uses Dub for build management, the CLion version needs to use CMake, so we need the CMake-D stuff to be up to scratch as well. I have just tried out the Rust plugin to IntelliJ IDEA, it is excellent. JetBrains themselves have taken the Go plugin and turned it into Gogland a complete IDE. It is not half bad. D is very definitely losing in this IDE race, and thus in the potential for traction in the C, C++, Go, Rust, D milieu. > And jetbrains are working on Kotlin native, another big > competitor.. Interesting, but the current competition is between Go, Rust, C++, and D. -- Russel. ============================================================================= Dr Russel Winder t: +44 20 7585 2200 voip: sip:russel.win...@ekiga.net 41 Buckmaster Road m: +44 7770 465 077 xmpp: rus...@winder.org.uk London SW11 1EN, UK w: www.russel.org.uk skype: russel_winder
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