On Friday, 2 June 2017 at 09:14:14 UTC, qznc wrote:
Frankly, I do not see the need for Phobos2. If you want to
build alternative packages, just go ahead and publish them via
dub like Mir, for example. You can even make a meta package, if
you find yourself using the same group of packages all the
time. Still, why would you call that meta package "Phobos2"? It
only confuses people.
If you want to rewrite parts of the standard library, build the
alternatives first and then we can adopt them piecewise.
Makes sense. I've said in the past that the standard library
should be smaller now that we have Dub. The standard library
should serve as a common framework that lets libraries
interoperate easier.
If an effort was undertaken it should probably not be called
Phobos2 until such time (if ever) that it becomes Phobos2 by
community vote and Walter and Andrei approval.
C++'s Boost has a problem where libraries people are working on
get called Boost Whatever in anticipation of being proposed for
Boost and many of them never even make it to the review stage so
it becomes confusing about what is and isn't in Boost. It's also
confusing because competing libraries will be proposed and a
non-Boost library is already taking Boost ObviousName so they
have to come up with some weird name instead.
Nevertheless, I would love to read a detailed analysis of
Phobos and what should be improved. Please, write a blog post
somewhere. However, do not mention "Phobos2".
This is the heart of why I made the post. I want to read what
people want myself.
D has a painful history with two competing standard libraries.
If you seriously propose this path, I hope Andrei and Walter
will publicly and vehemently oppose it. Otherwise that ghost
from the past becomes a PR disaster for D.
Not very seriously. I'm more interested in the discussion than
anything. Like I said, I don't think this will go anywhere.
I do want to say that I don't think the Phobos/Tango situation is
relevant. Those were two competing, mutually exclusive standard
libraries. That problem has long since been resolved with people
using Tango and Phobos together in their D2 programs just fine. I
understand why anyone would be weary at the idea though.
