On Friday, 16 June 2017 at 11:50:20 UTC, Wulfklaue wrote:
I am already far into my project with D but at the same time i can not help getting this nagging feeling that D has major issues beyond its base language. Mostly its community and structure. I see less of this with for instance Rust despite being a WAY younger language and audience. Its almost like D is stuck in the past, in some kind of pre-2000 C++ attitude. Like i said, maybe its me. D as a base language works but for such a old language ( lets be honest about that ), its a real struggle on the other areas beyond the language.
We don't notice the rivers carving the canyons in our brief lifespans, so would never know that it happened without some point of reference in the past to compare to. While D's progress doesn't move at such a glacial pace (thankfully!), it still won't be very noticeable to someone who hasn't been around here long enough. If you could move your point of reference back in time a bit, you'd know that a great deal of progress has been made.
That doesn't mean that such complaints aren't valid and shouldn't be raised, but it's nice to have some perspective to moderate your expectations. Progress *is* being made. The volunteer argument keeps coming up because that *is* the reality. There's no one around here who can snap their fingers and get a team of people to put their heads down and make improvements on a daily basis. Rust and Go, however, do have that benefit. So we move forward, bit-by-bit, slowly but surely.
I've been using D and coming to these forums since 2003 (and, by the way, using DMD on Windows without a hitch for all that time) and I can point to many periods in the intervening years when we passed major milestones. There used to be no IDE plugins at all. No installers. DMD was distributed in a single zip for all platforms. We had no build tools, no DUB, no web frameworks, a substandard standard library, a clunky web interface for the newsgroups... So please, don't take your snapshot view of the current state of affairs and take that as evidence that the rivers aren't carving the canyons, because they very much are.
