On Thursday, 26 October 2017 at 10:16:27 UTC, Adam Wilson wrote:
On 10/26/17 00:32, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
IIRC, there have been people on these forums that have been
asking why
they need to download additional software when they already
have the
compiler.
Same on macOS.
How many though? Also, we have to do it for macOS, why is
Windows special? The macOS setup was just as hard. Download two
large packages (XCode+Cmd tools), install, and done.
There definitely has been an uptick in that sort of complaint.
The question should be, how many aren't coming here to complain?
My initial internal reaction has always been, "just download and
install -- how hard is it?". But one day I stopped and asked
myself, what if I were coming to D today? I got by just fine for
years without having VS installed. Once the 6.0 days were behind
me, I neither needed nor wanted VS. I was content with mingw for
my C stuff. When I first came to D, I came with the full
knowledge that there was no ecosystem, things were rough, and I'd
have to do a lot by hand. I stuck around because the language was
worth it. If I came in today and saw that I needed to install VS
just to get 64-bit binaries, I doubt I'd stick around long enough
to discover how great the language is.
I also didn't like that I had to install the Xcode tools on my
Mac, but that's needed for any development on Mac from what I can
see.