On 05/22/2010 08:29 AM, Robert Clipsham wrote:
On 20/05/10 07:52, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
I'm interested in trying to gauge the current state of D version
usage, so
I've set up a poll:
http://micropoll.com/t/KEFfsZBH5F
I apologize for using MicroPoll (and all its
manditory-JavaScript-ness). I
personally hate MicroPoll but everything else I've seen is even worse
and I
don't have time to make a custom one.
I put my vote with D1 & 2, although truthfully I've moved back to D1 for
the most part. I found D2 almost impossible to use, for a few reasons:
- Safe D was impossible to use due to phobos not supporting this
(although this seems to be close to a fix)
- Interfacing to C libraries is now overly complex thanks to const
correctness. After updating all the function signatures I found phobos
was completely lacking the functions to convert between C and D strings
of varying constness or with different encodings (char/wchar/dchar).. I
ended up writing my own functions
Could you please give more detail on that? There should be essentially
no problem with using C-style strings with D regardless of constness.
- to!() didn't work in most cases where I tried to use it, I ended up
writing my own conversion functions
to is deliberately defined to be restrictive; parse is more forgiving.
Anyway, I'd be glad to improve to if you gave me a few hints.
- Various bugs I encountered which have already been reported (I forget
which ones).
- Lack of an x86_64 compiler. I spent far too long messing around
setting up a multilib system, and ended up making a chroot for dmd. This
is far too much effort/messing around, and should I ever feel there's a
use for my apps outside of localhost people will wonder why they don't
support x86_64 natively (I believe this will change after D2 from
various comments from Walter).
- Lack of containers in phobos, although dcollections may have solved
this now, I haven't had chance to look
There were some other reasons I've forgotten, but until at least some of
these are fixed I'll stick to D1/Tango... I hope I can move back to D2
at some point in the future once it's stabilized a bit more.
Yah, for most of these things are definitely looking up. Thanks, and I'd
appreciate any more detail you might have.
Andrei
