On 08/05/2010 01:23 PM, retard wrote:
Wed, 04 Aug 2010 20:22:09 -0500, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
On 08/04/2010 07:25 PM, Jeff Nowakowski wrote:
On 08/04/2010 05:16 PM, Robert Clipsham wrote:
I know of several large apps written in D, they're all D1/Tango.
The incomplete state of D2 has to be the most embarrassing question
that could have been asked at Andrei's talk, but then you'd have to be
familiar with D to ask that question. Andrei likes to talk about
presentations showing only what's good, but he gave a whole talk about
an incomplete language while hawking his book for said language, but
made no mention of D1 vs D2.
People often ask for a status, but there never seems to be good
answers. Where's the roadmap? What's being worked on? What's left to
fix? Is there a release date that's being worked towards? It used to
coincide with the release of Andrei's book, but that has come and gone.
Walter is more silent than usual because he's working very hard on the
64-bit compiler. He hopes to have one by the end of this month. His next
big goal is shared library support.
Ok, Walter is working on a 64-bit compiler, then on the shared library
support. That's great. But many of us would like to know who is
* managing the communication with the user community
* managing the communication with the language/compiler developers
* managing the bugfixes to the spec
* managing the compiler bugfix release (minor version) process
* managing the language development debate
* coordinating the future language development (roadmap page of the trac)
* managing the public relations with the people outside the core
community
It seems Walter wants to be a lonely wolf. Nobody else is allowed to do
anything listed above unless you're Andrei. There are no managers, we
only have experts working with their favorite features and no
communication exists between these persons or the community.
I think this is a gross misrepresentation. Are you sure you're not
forgetting a lot of contributors? If anything, the trend is toward
opening the doors to more, not less people.
Andrei