On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 04:59:18 -0500, retard <r...@tard.com.invalid> wrote:
Wed, 26 Jan 2011 15:35:19 -0500, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
I'd suggest to anyone looking to use D for something really big to try
and "prove" out how well D will perform for you by coding up bits of
your whole project that you think will be needed. Hopefully, you can do
everything without hitting a mercy bug and then you can write your full
project in it.
I think this reveals a lot about D. You still need to prove things. Or
maybe the community members in general aren't very good developers; they
can't see the potential of this language. The fact is, no matter what
language you choose, if it isn't a complete joke, you can finish the
project. (I'm assuming the community members here won't be writing any
massive projects which are not possible to do in C++ or PHP or Java.)
I fully see the potential of the language, but I've also experienced that
a one (or two or three) man compiler team does not fix bugs on *my*
schedule. I can't buy "enterprise" support, so any bugs I may hit, I'm
just going to have to wait for Walter and Co. to get around to them. Not
a problem for me, because I'm not developing with D professionally. But
if I was going to base a software company on D, I'd be very nervous at
this prospect.
I find that I can work around many of D's bugs, but there are just some
that you have to throw your hands up and wait (I don't have time to learn
how a compiler works, and fix D's compiler). I think as D matures and
hopefully gets more enterprise support, these problems will be history.
I don't see any need to prove how well Haskell works. Even though it's a
"avoid success at all costs" experimental research language. It just
works. I mean to the extent that I'm willing to go with these silly test
projects that try to prove something.
The statements I made are not a property of D, they are a property of the
lack of backing/maturity. I'm sure when Haskell was at the same maturity
stage as D, and if it had no financial backing/support contracts, it would
be just as much of a gamble.
You seem to think that D is inherently flawed because of D, but it's
simply too young for some tasks. It's rapidly getting older, and I think
in a year or two it will be mature enough for most projects.
-Steve
