Vladimir Panteleev Wrote:

> On Tue, 15 Feb 2011 03:00:59 +0200, Aaron Smith <m...@pathway.org> wrote:
> 
> > Thank god we have TDPL, otherwise the D page would quickly lose this  
> > battle. D is much much more notable than Nemerle, Alice ML, Pure,  
> > Nosica, Kiev, Einstein, Alma-0, Joy, Zonnon, Y, Cat, Fancy, Ambi,  
> > Ptolemy, Mythryl, COMIT, Ioke, EASY, Aikido, A+, Adenine, Afnix,  
> > Bsisith, ChinesePython, AngelScript, Algae, Agena, Taxi, Inger, Iota,  
> > Jot, Agora, Falcon, Averest, Lava, Factor, Glagol. These all have been  
> > deleted by the same editor.
> 
> Not necessarily defending his actions, but speaking personally not one of  
> these languages rings a bell to me, while I've heard of D in contexts  
> otherwise unrelated to D several times.

I'm just saying you should have some sort of a track record of writing quality 
articles /and/ possibly real world competence before getting the permission to 
remove content, especially if you're hunting down over 35 articles on short 
notice.

The Wikipedia policy guidelines are more or less out of place. If they care 
about not wasting server space, they should avoid these votings and arguments 
as much as possible. In general article removals should be harder to perform, 
e.g. requiring a 3/4 or 5/6 or 9/10 consencus.

The meatpuppetry argument is especially awkward. Assume someone has personal 
issues with D and decides to nominate the 'D programming language' article for 
deletion (AfD). Next, some D user periodically updating the D article notices 
this, starts a new (emotionally colored) thread in reddit and posts the link to 
the article to the newsgroup. This is something that badly pisses off the 
Wikipedia deletionists and soon everyone defending the article become 
meatpuppets in their eyes. If you call people with offensive names, you lose 
your vote and might get a permaban. foreach(name in reddit.thread || 
d.newsgroup) might also get a permaban if the deletionists are in a bad mood. 
It takes a huge amount of effort to actually keep the articles. It would be 
much easier to just leave them there and let the maintainers fix the issues.

Back to the topic..  at least Alice ML was used for teaching functional 
programming in some universities. There are also boatloads of papers about it, 
web sites, active users, and maybe even some dedicated books. This was all 
dismissed in the deletionist process.

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