On 01.07.2011 02:19, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
On 2011-06-30 15:59, simendsjo wrote:
On 01.07.2011 00:49, Simen Kjaeraas wrote:
On Thu, 30 Jun 2011 23:52:38 +0200, Daniel Gibson
<metalcae...@gmail.com> wrote:
Am 30.06.2011 23:50, schrieb KennyTM~:
On Jul 1, 11 05:39, bearophile wrote:
Jonathan M Davis:
Actually, I find the backticks to be by far the most pleasant way to
get raw
strings in D.
I don't have backticks on my keyboard, so I use them only when they
are needed. They have even removed the backticks in the Python2 ->
Python3 transition partially because of this (and partially because
there is a more obvious way to do it in Python, and Python tries to
keep only one obvious way to do things).
Bye,
bearophile
Python's `xyz` is equivalent to repr(xyz). I think it is removed in
Python 3 more because `...` is not worth the specialness as repr(). But
D's `...` is much more worthy as a convenient literal syntax when
involving '"' or '\'.
(I know some keyboard doesn't have '[' and ']'. So having no '`'
shouldn't be the reason it is removed from the language.)
Keyboards without []? This makes programming nearly impossible O_O
And standard Norwegian layout has them on AltGr+8/9. The pain.
But using US int'l has the added advantage of confusing the hell out
of my cow-orkers when they try to use my confuser (which has thus earned
that title :p).
Switch to programmer dvorak and they'll never touch your computer again.
I switched to dvorak _and_ got one of these: http://www.kinesis-
ergo.com/advantage.htm
No one is going to be using my computer with my keyboard. Though honestly, as
much as I like dvorak, I wouldn't advise that anyone switch to it. Too many
programs assume qwerty, so all of their shortcuts are designed for it. Stuff
like the shortcuts for cut, copy, and paste are on completely different places
on the keyboard and don't work as well (only cut can be done with just your
left hand). I had to completely remap vim to be able to use it. Other programs
need their keys or shortcuts remapped to work very well. It just causes
problems for stuff that assumes qwerty. So, it's likely more pain than its
worth. My keyboard is awesome regardless of whether you use qwerty or dvork
though. I can actually type numbers on it without looking, which I could never
do on a normal keyboard, because the keys aren't vertically aligned on a
normal keyboard. It's expensive, but I'm quite happy that I bought it.
- Jonathan M Davis
Looks ergonomically "correct", but pretty massive. I've considered
TypeMatrix (http://typematrix.com/) in the past, but I think it's a bit
expensive.
As for dvorak, I'm not quite sure. The keybindings haven't been a large
problem for me. Most programs have mappings based on the name of the
function (o for open), and this isn't a problem. The only vim "problems"
is movement which now requires two hands - but I decided not to remap,
and it hasn't been a problem. Games on the other hand :)
I still switched quite recently, and type very slowly. And my hands
actually hurt more - probably because I'm not used to it. I'm hoping
that dvorak will help on strain in the long run though..
