On Thu, 11 Aug 2011 03:49:56 -0400, Jacob Carlborg <d...@me.com> wrote:

On 2011-08-11 09:41, Jonas Drewsen wrote:
On 11/08/11 09.07, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
On 2011-08-10 21:55, jdrewsen wrote:
What is the status of DIP11

http://www.wikiservice.at/d/wiki.cgi?LanguageDevel/DIPs/DIP11

Has anyone started implementing it? Has it been rejected?

/Jonas

Not sure, personally I don't like it. Instead I'm working on a more
traditional package manager called Orbit:
https://github.com/jacob-carlborg/orbit/wiki/Orbit-Package-Manager-for-D

Yes I've noticed that. Seems very promising.

What I do like about DIP11 is how seamless it would work. You just have
to compile and stuff works.

/Jonas

I think that DIP11 is too limited, for example, it doesn't deal with versions. Orbit combined with a build tool will be seamless as well. RDMD is a great tool but as soon as you need to add compiler flags or compile a library you need either some kind of script or a build tool. And in that case you can just go with the built tool and have it work on all platforms.

Given that the implementation would be a compiler-used tool, and the tool can implement any protocol it wants, I think it has very few limitations. I envision the tool being able to handle any network protocol or packaging system we want it to.

I think the benefit of this approach over a build tool which wraps the compiler is, the compiler already has the information needed for dependencies, etc. To a certain extent, the wrapping build tool has to re-implement some of the compiler pieces.

-Steve

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