The correct link should have been
http://uhaweb.hartford.edu/ccscne/Allen.pdf

Am 08.05.2012 04:33, schrieb Andre Tampubolon:
Interesting reading.
I took a look at page 23, and didn't find the mention of C.
Maybe I didn't read carefully?

On 5/8/2012 3:34 AM, Paulo Pinto wrote:
Hi,

it seems I have to excuse myself. I could not find anything
from Adele Goldberg.

So my statement is false. Most likely I ended up confusing
Fran Allen's interview in Coders at Work, with some nonsense
in my head.

Still, I leave here a few links I manage to find from Fran Allen.

Some remarks about bad languages on the page 27
http://www-03.ibm.com/ibm/history/witexhibit/pdf/allen_history.pdf

Complaint about C on slide 23
http://www-03.ibm.com/ibm/history/witexhibit/pdf/allen_history.pdf

Another remark about C
http://www.windley.com/archives/2008/02/fran_allen_compilers_and_parallel_computing_systems.shtml


A video recorded at Purdue University, she also talks about C on minute 51
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Si3ZW3nI6oA

--
Paulo

Am 07.05.2012 10:41, schrieb Jens Mueller:
Paulo Pinto wrote:
On Monday, 7 May 2012 at 07:26:44 UTC, Jens Mueller wrote:
Paulo Pinto wrote:
AST/symbol table manipulation is way faster than reparsing code.

People keep talking about D and Go compilation speed, while I
was already
enjoying such compile times back in 1990 with Turbo Pascal in
computers much
less powerfull than my laptop.

But C and C++ with their 70's compiler technology, somehow won
the
market share,
and then people started complaining about compilation speeds.

Adele Golberg, once wrote a paper telling how C made the
compiler technology
regress several decades.

Do you happen to remember to exact title of that paper?
Thanks.

Jens

I'll try to find it, as I don't recall the title.

I just remember that it made some remarks how primitive C was in
regard
to Algol toolchains.

Many thanks.
I couldn't find it myself and I'm interested because Fran Allen said
something similar in Coders at Work.
I didn't understand what she meant. Andrei suggested that it is mostly
(only?) about overlapping pointers to memory. I'm just curious.

Jens



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