Bonnie,

 From my frequent monitoring, I would have to say that the only really 
popular mode is PSK31. It is not uncommon now to have more PSK31 signals 
within a 2.3 KHz  passband, than even cw signals during a contest. Like 
this weekend you might find 4 to 6 cw signals but you would find up to 
12 PSK31 signals in the "watering hole" on 20 meters.

 From time to time there are other digital modes being used, of course, 
and Olivia seems to be the third most common, (after RTTY keyboarding), 
even though no where near the concentration of PSK31.

What I would like to see are some practical bandplans that have a 
recommended spot frequency for digital modes. We do have that by default 
now on 20 meters for the .070 PSK31, and similar areas on 40 and 80 
meters. The RTTY operation is often about 10 KHz higher as you point 
out. But except for contesting, RTTY is not as popular anymore as other 
digital modes and probably will drop off even more as older hams become SK.

No one has any particular claim to any part of any band, other than 
being able to work in the regulated areas for digital or for those who 
follow bandplans, within the bandplan recommendation. If you go to the 
ARRL site and look at their bandplan recommendations, one realizes that 
they do not distinguish between digital modes except for the automatic 
subband area that they call packet. Everything else is called RTTY.

If we had a spot frequency that was recommended for newer modes that 
have not had a de facto "watering hole," like PSK31, then we could start 
from there and if the frequency was busy, move up to the next available 
slot. As it stands right now, there can be Olivia, or Domino, or MFSK16, 
etc. over fairly wide areas and it is very easy to miss a call. Since 
there are not that many stations that work these modes, it would reduce 
the number of times that calls are made with no response.

Another consideration is the dearth of digital operation (except for 
Pactor e-mail) on 30 meters. I have called many times on this band and 
had no luck with other stations being around. If you have to make a sked 
via the internet to even work a mode on a given band, that doesn't say 
much about that mode:( But when I compared the recommendations between 
say Region 1 and 2, they don't even agree on where data modes should be 
operating on 30 meters. Region 1 is 10.140 and up and Region 2 is 10.130 
to 10.140 if I read it correctly. Maybe it would be wise to have a 
domestic starting frequency and a DX starting frequency? For example, I 
have often moved just above the commercial RTTY station near 10.130 and 
called. Maybe I should move up to 10.140 dial frequency and then try 
10.141 or 10.141.5?

In the final analysis, there are way too many new different digital 
modes, used very infrequently, to have special subbands, but they could 
have a recommended starting frequency for calling. Otherwise my rule of 
thumb is to see where the last PSK31 station is operating and go just 
above that and start calling with whatever mode de jour I happen to be 
using at that time.

Comments from others?

73,

Rick, KV9U



expeditionradio wrote:

> Olivia is now popular for digital keyboarding.
> Since Olivia has so many possible modes in it,
> there is a search for a 500Hz starting point.
>
> I propose that we, as a group of Olivia operators,
> use 14076kHz-14079kHz, as a centre-of-activity
> starting point for Olivia 500/8 .
>
> Olivia 500/8 (or 500/16) USB Dial Frequencies proposed:
> 14075.5
> 14076.0
> 14076.5
> 14077.0
> 14077.5
> 14078.0
>
> 14076-14079kHz is compatible and recommended by the IARU Region
> Bandplans for all regions of the world for (500Hz) digital
> keyboarding modes.
> It is compatible with the Amateur Radio rules of most countries.
> http://www.hflink.com/bandplans/
>
> Between the PSK activity (14070-14073) and RTTY activity
> (14080-14089), it may attract new operators for Olivia QSOs.
>
> A few digital keyboarding modes share this frequency range,
> and the keyboarding activity is very similar to Olivia, such as
> MFSK, etc.
>
> Bonnie KQ6XA
>
>
>



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