I've heard DV using LCP-10 and a 16 tone modem as well as a 39 tone modem at 
1200 bps...it sounds robotic at best.  But that could have been just the 
systems used (ANDVT/Mil-STD-188-110)

Walt/K5YFW

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It was my understanding that the QAM-4 modulation was used for the text 
transmission and you needed to use at least QAM-16 for the voice.

How many bps can you get through with QAM-4?

If LPC doesn't work at 1200 bps, then what other codec do you suggest?

Even MELP (which is a type of LPC) normally was based upon a 2400 bps 
speed was it not?  And apparently it works OK at 1000 bps?

73,

Rick, KV9U



cesco12342000 wrote:

>
>A codec withh 1000bit/sec would allow qam-4 modulation, and improve 
>the robustness to "useful" levels. Tests with a 1200 bit/sec LPC 
>codec have been negative (bad intellegibility).
>
>
>  
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