Even if we could do multimedia at a decent speed on HF kids wouldn't be interested in doing it over ham radio. Who's going to lug around a transceiver and antenna when a simple cell phone can do it faster and better? Kids aren't stupid, they will use the device best suited for the purpose.
It goes deeper than that. I love the new Honda motorcycle commercial where, I think it's Jeremy McGrath, tells kids in front of a video game to go out and ride instead of sitting in front of the screen. Too many kids don't want to know how things work on a physical level and their parents don't require it of them. When was the last time any of you took your kid and disassembled an old lawn mower engine to show them how it works? We've become a consumer society instead of a manufacturing society. Folks are more interested in using things than making them, kids included. As a result, the curiosity and inventiveness needed to have kids interested, really interested in how a radio or other things works has suffered. And, for those who are interested in making something, computers satisfy that urge to create really well, and very cheaply. Software programming can be learned at home, on your own time, and you can do some really neat stuff. So the question is how do we get kids out from behind the game/computer screen and into other things that are interesting too? I don't have the answer to this but I think a lot more commercials like Honda's would help. Just think if NASCAR would promote go cart racing and I mean really promote it with lots of money behind it. We might just have more kids interested in something mechanical. In the end, it's not WHAT ham radio can send over HF, its having kids interested in HOW it is sent. My two cents for what it's worth. Jim WA0LYK --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "John Champa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Danny, > > Not just for text messages....think multimedia: pics, still and motion. > Sound - high quality. etc. > Kids don't understand a phone that doesn't take pics, and soon has an MP3 > player built-in too (HI). > > 73, John - K8OCL > > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > From: "Danny Douglas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com > To: <digitalradio@yahoogroups.com> > Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: USA: No Advanced Digital HF Data Comms > Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2006 21:37:59 -0500 > > I still dont understand why everyone seems to think we need multi gigibit > bandwidth to allow people to talk to each other. I would almost bet there > are less than a handfull of folk on here that type over 70 words per minute. > Why do we need anything faster than that, to interested kids? Most on > here, cannot type faster than most digital circuits already run, and even if > you can - can you think of enough, fast enough, to fill up a transmission > any faster than 70 or 80 wpm? Kids in chat rooms seem to do just fine with > even slow internet connectivity. We already have voice point to point, rtty > point to point etc. What more do we really need? I havent talked to the > international space station, mainly because I havent spent the time to find > out where and when, on passes near me. > > Yes, kids are spoiled. They can go to the computer and talk to almost any > country in the world, with a touch or two of a key. THAT is NOT magic to > them - its expected. The magic is showing them how to do it without wires. > > Danny Douglas N7DC > ex WN5QMX ET2US WA5UKR ET3USA > SV0WPP VS6DD N7DC/YV5 G5CTB all > DX 2-6 years each > . > QSL LOTW-buro- direct > As courtesty I upload to eQSL but if you > use that - also pls upload to LOTW > or hard card. > > moderator [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Michael Hatzakis Jr MD > To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2006 12:40 PM > Subject: RE: [digitalradio] Re: USA: No Advanced Digital HF Data Comms > > > Hmmm, interesting. on the question of "What would have to change to make > what we do (Amateur Radio - digital) > > interesting and relevant to the typical Jr High School computer > hobbiest?" > > > > 1.. HF bandwidth limitations make digital HF too slow for the average > Jr Hi limited attention span > > > 2.. And. if they can't talk to all their friends > > > 3.. .and it's not cool (or whatever the current expression of being > widely socially acceptable), ie., "ohhh dad, that is so strange sitting > behind that radio with those strange sounds all by yourself" > > > 4.. . and it has a perception of something you have to do by yourself > > > 5.. .and it isn't X-Box > > > High school and Junior HS kids interested in HF will be very few. > > > > I think ARISS had it right on. Bring to mainstream. Bring it to school. > Make it cool. Get all kids & teachers talking about it. That is my > belief how we get kids interested in HF/VHF digital and other forms of > communication. I wonder if anyone tested the number of hams that came out > of schools that had an ARISS visit. > > > > My $0.02. > > > > Michael K3MH > > > > FYI: http://www.arrl.org/ARISS/ > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Bill Vodall WA7NWP > Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2006 9:11 AM > To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: USA: No Advanced Digital HF Data Comms > > > > > I will also ask the question again: > > > > If we had the ability to send high speed digital data on HF, what would > > we be sending to each other that we don't do now? > > Anything. Everything. There's no 'technical' reason we don't do > everything on HF. Discussion groups like this, pictures, favorite > songs, audio/video snapshots. > > WL2K is right in one sense that it's good to offload as much as > possible to the Internet as soon as possible. On the other hand, the > "Land Line Lid" folks were right that putting traffic to the Internet > stifles innovation and technology. > > My stock question again: > > What would have to change to make what we do (Amateur Radio - digital) > interesting and relevant to the typical Jr High School computer > hobbiest? We can talk forever about A1C's and X0Z's but in 10 or 20 > years it's going to be that Jr Hi generation that's doing what ever > is being done. > > 73 > Bill - WA7NWP > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.430 / Virus Database: 268.15.6/566 - Release Date: 12/3/2006 > 4:36 PM >
