What radio (brand) were you using? GMRS required a license, FMRS doesn't. If you have a combination GMRS/FRS talkie, some of them run 5 watts output and have removable antennas and antenna jack/plug...and if you have a GMRS license you can operate those channels and use external antennas. But if you don't have a GMRS License, then you can't operate the GMRS/FRS 5 watt (or two watt versions).
A FMRS radio that has GRMS capability only runs ~ 1/2 watt and cannot be used with an external antenna. I think I am reading the rules correctly. Walt/K5YFW -----Original Message----- From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of bruce mallon Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 10:37 AM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [digitalradio] OT: Why we lost 11 meters $150 is not cheep when you look at GMRS/FRS radios for under $30 i was getting 10 miles from the car to the house with a 9db gain vertical at 30 foot on the house and a 5db gain colinear on the car --- DuBose Walt Civ AETC CONS/LGCA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I can buy a 2W MURS radio (talkie) today for less > than $150 and some for as low as $99. > > Also, you can run a MURS radio on an external > antenna up to 60 ft with no restrictions on antenna > gain. If the antenna is on the top of a building, > the antenna can be no more than 20 ft above the > building. > > I have many friends who are serious campers, hikers, > cycle riders, "explorers" and survivalist who use > MURS radios very effectivl. Some have gain antennas > on their talkies. Others set up a base station with > the antenna at 20-30ft and a 3-5 dB gain antenna and > talk 5-7 miles reliably to talkies and mobiles with > real mobile antennas (not mag-mounts). They talk > 15-20 miles between base stations. > > The gain antennas, good coax (most use LMR400UF) > cost more than the radio. Some are using separate > mikes and speakers as well as external power > supplies or larger gell cell type batteries for base > stations. > > Walt/K5YFW > > -----Original Message----- > From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of > bruce mallon > Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 8:54 AM > To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [digitalradio] OT: Why we lost 11 > meters > > > Correct E. F. Johnson pushed for 27 nhz. SADLY MURS > goes unused if the FCC used its brain it would > promote > MURS by allowing it to be built into a CB radio. > Right > now radios for MURS are expensive and hard to get. > > > > --- KV9U <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Although this is a bit off topic, unlike the on > > topic discussions of > > amateur radio and digital programs and operating > > systems ... > > > > The FCC was looking for a band of frequencies that > > they could allocate > > for a minimally licensed citizens radio service. > > Radio amateurs were > > rarely using 11 meters and had nearby 15 meters > > below and 10 meters > > above so we had a very limited need. > > > > The FCC also needed to find a band that was low > > enough in frequency so > > that the technology of the time, the mid 1950's, > > could manufacture such > > equipment that was affordable. VHF/UHF equipment > was > > much more expensive > > to make, thus the lower frequencies in the HF band > > made it practical. > > > > Of course the huge downside was that these > > frequencies also had F skip > > when the sunspot cycle was cooperative and they > knew > > it was going to be > > a problem with "hobbyists" using the frequencies > for > > amateur radio type > > activity which was not their intent. I don't think > > they really > > understood the skip conditions would be so strong > at > > times, that local > > communications could be nearly useless, even > though > > the FCC made longer > > contacts illegal. > > > > Due to other happenings (Arab oil embargo of early > > 1970's), more people > > bought CB equipment and the violations were > > completely overwhelming to > > the FCC and they eventually gave up even > pretending > > to have licenses for > > the service. > > > > Today we have the "licensed" GMRS and the > unlicensed > > FRS, and most > > recently MURS services that are much better > > frequencies for local, short > > range, tactical type communications that actually > > work without long skip > > interference. But this was only possible due to > the > > much lower cost of > > developing and manufacturing equipment for these > > frequencies with more > > recent technology. > > > > 73, > > > > Rick, KV9U > > > > > > larry allen wrote: > > > > >We lost 11 meters because we were not using it > > enough... > > >Larry ve3fxq > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Need a quick answer? Get one in minutes from people > who know. > Ask your question on www.Answers.yahoo.com > > > Connect to telnet://cluster.dynalias.org a single > node spotting/alert system dedicated to digital and > CW QSOs. > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Any questions? Get answers on any topic at www.Answers.yahoo.com. Try it now. Connect to telnet://cluster.dynalias.org a single node spotting/alert system dedicated to digital and CW QSOs. Yahoo! Groups Links
