You would think so, but look at the band plan, and then at who is the lead for IARU within region 2 (ARRL). They say 1800-18930 CW, yet do not say that on their own US Amateur Bands chart, or at least recommend it. Phone doesnt show up on there, until 1840-1850 DX window.
One hand doesnt know what the next is doing. We need INTERNATIONAL band plans. Get all three regions together in a room and make them stay there until they get a bandplan agreement - with teeth. Danny Douglas N7DC ex WN5QMX ET2US WA5UKR ET3USA SV0WPP VS6DD N7DC/YV5 G5CTB all DX 2-6 years each . QSL LOTW-buro- direct As courtesty I upload to eQSL but if you use that - also pls upload to LOTW or hard card. moderator [EMAIL PROTECTED] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck Mayfield - AA5J" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <digitalradio@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 9:33 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Clarification : Establishing digital calling/beacon frequencies > It seems to me that the IARU Region 2 bandplan should at least be > consulted as part of the subject process.. > See http://www.iaru-regionii.org/Region_2_HF_Band_Plan.html. > > 73 de AA5J > > Danny Douglas wrote: > > > As to the 160 meter band, I was taken aback by your comment about > > operating > > digital outside of 1800- 1810 bandplan. Bandplans are arbitary and > > there is > > NO force of law in them as far as I know- and are voluntary. Now - > > subbands > > ARE of course the mandantory rules and are the subject of last weeks > > changes > > in separating modes. The chart, put out just last week, of US Amateur > > Bands > > shows the 160 band with NO partition at all, and indeed over in the Key, > > says of 160: > > "CW,RTTY,DATA, PHONE, IMAGE" The only note of distinction in this whole > > band comments that "amateurs operating from 1900-2000 khz must not cause > > harmful inteference to the radiolocation service and are afforded no > > protection from radiolocation operators" > > > > Where did you get the information that digital MUST stay within the > > first 10 > > kc. I would say there must be something wrong with that, or the chart the > > ARRL has supplied is incorrect, but I have other charts showing the same > > thing. That would be interesting, as I have been using PSK in several > > places on the band, but never below about 1.840, for a couple of years > > without any squwak from the FCC, or anyone else. > > > > As to 20 meters, you are correct that the majority of RTTY appears to be > > above 14080, but I have heard it as low as 14.074 on non-contest QSOs. > > Give > > a contest and people go wild and you hear RTTY as low as 14.010, which is > > really irritating to a CW op. Most all of the PSK I have worked (128 > > countries to date) have been on 20 meters, and all of it within the > > 14.069-14.073 bandwidth. The other digital modes have all been around > > 14.065 - 14.070. This is the reason I was recommending the lower side of > > PSK rather than just above it. I havent called CQ on the other modes, > > above > > the PSK area, but typically when I have answered others they are below it. > > Right now, with such poor conditions I am hearing no digital signals > > at all > > on 20. I have worked few digital stations (other than RTTY) on 15-10 so > > dont know how those separate out. Also have not been digitally active > > on 80 > > or 40 all that much either. Mostly, I look for DX and those dont afford me > > "new ones" very often. The 160 meter band is an exception there, as I > > figure that "new ones" should be easier on PSK than SSB or even CW- but so > > far that has not been the case, for really long distance ops. I just dont > > think enough people are using the band with PSK or other new digital > > modes. > > > > Your last comment: " Perhaps it would not incur the wrath of the FCC if we > > operated > > > voice and then also transmitted data and fax and image in between voice > > > transmissions, but do it in the voice/image part of the band?" > > would appear to be exactly what we should be doing. It would keep the > > voice > > part out of the lower piece of the band and > > place both it and the images together - and as per my above - is totally > > legal according to the charts. I was hoping that would be what we > > would see > > on the other bands as well, but guess that is still not to be. > > > > Danny Douglas N7DC > > ex WN5QMX ET2US WA5UKR ET3USA > > SV0WPP VS6DD N7DC/YV5 G5CTB all > > DX 2-6 years each > > . > > QSL LOTW-buro- direct > > As courtesty I upload to eQSL but if you > > use that - also pls upload to LOTW > > or hard card. > > > > moderator [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > <mailto:digital_modes%40yahoogroups.com> > > > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > >No virus found in this incoming message. > >Checked by AVG Free Edition. > >Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.26/594 - Release Date: 12/20/2006 3:54 PM > > > > > > > > Connect to telnet://cluster.dynalias.org a single node spotting/alert system dedicated to digital and CW QSOs. > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.26/594 - Release Date: 12/20/2006 3:54 PM > >