Pactor is not the problem. Unattended stations without busy detectors are the problem -- whether they're operating in Pactor, PSK, RTTY, or CW.
73, Dave, AA6YQ --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "Andrew O'Brien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > but Bonnie, a fundamental issue has been the frustration with PACTOR just > switching on mid-stream and interfering with a QSO. Other than under > contesting conditions, it rarely happens with other modes. Would not it be > fairly easy for programmers to build in a variable parameter that allows the > user to set a signal to noise ratio and a waterfall bandwidth. If the > software detects a signal above the specified SNR within the specified > bandwidth, the software refused to xmit? A "off" setting could be used > when emergencies exists. For example MixW and PC-ALE both have a pseudo way > of measuring SNR. > > Andy. > > On 9/16/07, expeditionradio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > There are down sides to busy-detection: > > > > 1. There is no way to know the relative interference temperature > > threshold for distant co-channel users on HF. SNR at every station is > > different. A signal that seems in the background at one location, for > > one mode, may be interference to another mode working at a different > > SNR or a different mode at another station. > > > > 2. What to detect? How sensitive? It is possible to engineer a > > busy-detector that can be set for a very sensitive threshold, and > > detect almost any mode or almost any level. That same detector will > > also falsely show a busy channel most of the time on the HF ham bands. > > That renders the busy-detector useless for the busy-detector user who > > wants to have a QSO or send an important message. > > > > 3. When does the receiving station with busy-detection know whether > > the content of such an incoming message is an emergency? A > > too-sensitive busy detector might prevent such a message from being > > run in the first place, and the result would not be good. Thus, > > stations that are on the air specifically with a very likely possible > > purpose of running emergency traffic should probably not use a > > busy-detector. It is possible to envision a busy-detector that could > > be programmed to remotely disengage upon reception of a specific > > command... but such a system is not readily available at the present > > time, and the use of it would certainly unnecessarily complicate the > > sending of an emergency message at a critical time. > > > > 4. It may be counter-productive for networks or users to announce what > > type of busy-detection they use or don't use, because this sort of > > information can be used nefariously (has been and will be) by > > individuals on purpose to maliciously interfere or thwart normal > > operation. > > > > 5. We all know that there are many feuds and grudges out there on the > > air. It seems that certain hams who are most prone to carrying on > > feuds or grudge-matches may also be the same individuals who clamor > > most loudly for busy-detectors to be put in place by their "enemy" :) > > > > Bonnie KQ6XA > > > > > > > > > > -- > Andy K3UK > www.obriensweb.com > (QSL via N2RJ) >