On 01/16/2015 03:06 PM, khalid.el-darymli wrote:
I see. Is there someone we can contact at Ettus for this?

Khalid

Send a note to supp...@ettus.com

If the card is within waranty period, you'll likely get a replacement. Otherwise, the NI repair policy kicks in, and it wouldn't be worth getting it
  repaired.


On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 4:29 PM, Marcus D. Leech <mle...@ripnet.com <mailto:mle...@ripnet.com>> wrote:

    On 01/16/2015 02:54 PM, khalid.el-darymli wrote:
    I see. If you would like to diagnose the problem, we can ship you
    the malfunctioned daughterboard?

    Thanks,
    Khalid

    Thanks.  I personally wouldn't have time/equipment to really
    diagnose it.  So it would be up to Ettus R&D as to whether they
    want it back to see
      what the failure mode is.

    I've been doing Ettus support for 6 years, and LF_TX are not
    generally items that show up with RMA requests very often.




    On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 4:17 PM, Marcus D. Leech
    <mle...@ripnet.com <mailto:mle...@ripnet.com>> wrote:

        On 01/16/2015 02:42 PM, khalid.el-darymli wrote:
        We were using only one Tx channel with the Subdev Spec in
        the USRP Sink is set to A:AB

        Could the failure be due to that the other (idle) Tx channel
        is left open circuit (i.e., not terminated by 50 ohms)?
        That seems quite unlikely. These aren't "precious princess"
        RF power transistors, but reasonably-robust
        differential-to-unbalanced drivers.  I'd
          be very surprised if they couldn't handle an open-circuit
        condition.





        Khalid


        On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 3:41 PM, Marcus D. Leech
        <mle...@ripnet.com <mailto:mle...@ripnet.com>> wrote:

            On 01/16/2015 02:08 PM, khalid.el-darymli wrote:
            Hi All,

            Just to update you in case somebody else comes across
            this problem. Following Mike's advice, we replaced the
            LFTX daughterboard with a new one. We're getting now 1
            V p-p. This is around 4 dBm.

            Thanks very much for your help.

            Best regards,
            Khalid


            Interesting. The driver chip that's used, as a
            unity-gain differential-to-single-ended driver, is,
            according to the datasheets, pretty robust.  So, it would
              be interesting to know exactly what the failure mode is.





            On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 2:38 PM, Michael Rahaim
            <mrah...@bu.edu <mailto:mrah...@bu.edu>> wrote:

                Hi Khalid,

                I had a similar issue with an LFTX that I had been
                working with for about two years. I actually had
                two boards running on separate USRP2's and both
                were working fine for quite a while, but I recently
                noticed that one had a drastically lower output
                range. I ended up replacing the LFTX and all is
                working well now, so I'm assuming it was a hardware
                issue that came up at some point.

                I didn't take the time to look for the problem, but
                I figured I'd share this info since what you're
                seeing might be a hardware issue rather than
                something you can resolve with settings.

                -Mike

                On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 12:59 PM, khalid.el-darymli
                <khalid.el-dary...@mun.ca
                <mailto:khalid.el-dary...@mun.ca>> wrote:


                    >> Output power is determined largely by
                    baseband signal magnitude in that case.
                    Yes, I understand. And I noticed that for
                    baseband signal with an amplitude *> 1, * the
                    pass-band signal gets clipped off. So I assume
                    that an amplitude of 1 for the baseband signal
                    should deliver the maximum output power (for
                    the pass-band signal).

                    My question was, what is the maximum power one
                    can get for the pass-band signal output from
                    LFTX? In your earlier reply, you said it is
                    around +7dBm, am I getting this right? In my
                    case, for a baseband amplitude of around 1, I
                    am only getting *-28.13dBm*, much less than
                    what you said, I am not sure,*why?*

                    Thanks,
                    Khalid


                    On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 1:56 PM, Marcus D. Leech
                    <mle...@ripnet.com <mailto:mle...@ripnet.com>>
                    wrote:

                        Thanks Marcus for your reply.

                        >> Probably somewhere in the neighborhood of
                        +7dBm, maybe a little more.

                        >> The LF/BASIC series have *no* gain in
                        either path, so you're just looked
                        at buffered ADC ouput.

                        So, ~ *+7dBm* is the max output power I
                        supposed to get from the LFTX
                        daughterboard? How do I get that?

                        Since I am only getting -28.13 dBm, does
                        that mean I have some issue with my LFTX
                        daughterboard?


                        Khalid


                        Output power is determined largely by
                        baseband signal magnitude in that case.









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                        Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2015 10:13:45 -0330
                        From: "khalid.el-darymli"
                        <khalid.el-dary...@mun.ca
                        <mailto:khalid.el-dary...@mun.ca>>
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                        Subject: [Discuss-gnuradio] Max Output
                        Power from the LFTX
                        daughterboard
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                        Hi,

                        What is the maximum output power from the
                        LFTX daughterboard when used with
                        the USRP N200?

                        According to this datasheet [1], the N200
                        with the WBX daughterbaord
                        provide an output power of 15 dBm.
                        However, when using the LFTX
                        daughterboard, I am getting a much less
                        output power.
                        [1]
                        
http://www.ettus.com/content/files/07495_Ettus_N200-210_DS_Flyer_HR.pdf

                        In GNU Radio with the USRP N200, we use a
                        sinusoid with a frequency of 150
                        kHz and an amplitude of 0.98, fed into the
                        LFTX daughterboard for a center
                        frequency of 5 MHz. When the output of
                        LFTX is plugged into a scope
                        terminated with a 50-ohm terminator, the
                        scope reads 24.8 mV
                        (peak-to-peak). This is around -28.13 dBm.

                        Is this the max power one can get out of
                        the LFTX daughterboard?


                        Thanks.

                        Best regards,
                        Khalid
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                        On 01/06/2015 08:43 AM, khalid.el-darymli
                        wrote:
                        > Hi,
                        >
                        > What is the maximum output power from
                        the LFTX daughterboard when used
                        > with the USRP N200?
                        >
                        > According to this datasheet [1], the
                        N200 with the WBX daughterbaord
                        > provide an output power of 15 dBm.
                        However, when using the LFTX
                        > daughterboard, I am getting a much less
                        output power.
                        > [1]
                        >
                        
http://www.ettus.com/content/files/07495_Ettus_N200-210_DS_Flyer_HR.pdf
                        >
                        > In GNU Radio with the USRP N200, we use
                        a sinusoid with a frequency of
                        > 150 kHz and an amplitude of 0.98, fed
                        into the LFTX daughterboard for
                        > a center frequency of 5 MHz. When the
                        output of LFTX is plugged into a
                        > scope terminated with a 50-ohm
                        terminator, the scope reads 24.8 mV
                        > (peak-to-peak). This is around -28.13 dBm.
                        >
                        > Is this the max power one can get out of
                        the LFTX daughterboard?
                        >
                        >
                        > Thanks.
                        >
                        > Best regards,
                        > Khalid
                        Probably somewhere in the neighborhood of
                        +7dBm, maybe a little more.

                        The LF/BASIC series have *no* gain in
                        either path, so you're just looked
                        at buffered ADC ouput.



                        --
                        Marcus Leech
                        Principal Investigator
                        Shirleys Bay Radio Astronomy Consortium
                        http://www.sbrac.org


-- Marcus Leech
                        Principal Investigator
                        Shirleys Bay Radio Astronomy Consortium
                        http://www.sbrac.org




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