We are using almost the same IC in our product, as a driver for a transmitting 
coil in industrial environment, for material test, and we had never ever fail 
one of those. Must be around 4k or 5k of those ICs we have out in the field, 
and the only failures were two or three that came dead from the PCB 
manufacturer. Even a hard short never was able to kill one.


Ralph.

 

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[mailto:discuss-gnuradio-bounces+ralph=schmid....@gnu.org] On Behalf Of Marcus 
D. Leech
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 8:12 PM
To: khalid.el-darymli; Michael Rahaim
Cc: Discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Max Output Power from the LFTX

 

On 01/16/2015 02:08 PM, khalid.el-darymli wrote:

Hi All, 

 

Just to update you in case somebody else comes across this problem. Following 
Mike's advice, we replaced the LFTX daughterboard with a new one. We're getting 
now 1 V p-p. This is around 4 dBm.

 

Thanks very much for your help.

 

Best regards,

Khalid

 

 

Interesting.  The driver chip that's used, as a unity-gain 
differential-to-single-ended driver, is, according to the datasheets, pretty 
robust.  So, it would
  be interesting to know exactly what the failure mode is.





 

 

On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 2:38 PM, Michael Rahaim <mrah...@bu.edu 
<mailto:mrah...@bu.edu> > wrote:

Hi Khalid, 

 

I had a similar issue with an LFTX that I had been working with for about two 
years. I actually had two boards running on separate USRP2's and both were 
working fine for quite a while, but I recently noticed that one had a 
drastically lower output range. I ended up replacing the LFTX and all is 
working well now, so I'm assuming it was a hardware issue that came up at some 
point. 

 

I didn't take the time to look for the problem, but I figured I'd share this 
info since what you're seeing might be a hardware issue rather than something 
you can resolve with settings.

 

-Mike

 

On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 12:59 PM, khalid.el-darymli <khalid.el-dary...@mun.ca 
<mailto:khalid.el-dary...@mun.ca> > wrote:


>> Output power is determined largely by baseband signal magnitude in that case.

Yes, I understand. And I noticed that for baseband signal with an amplitude > 
1,  the pass-band signal gets clipped off. So I assume that an amplitude of 1 
for the baseband signal should deliver the maximum output power (for the 
pass-band signal).

My question was, what is the maximum power one can get for the pass-band signal 
output from LFTX? In your earlier reply, you said it is around +7dBm, am I 
getting this right? In my case, for a baseband amplitude of around 1, I am only 
getting -28.13dBm, much less than what you said, I am not sure, why?

Thanks,

Khalid

 

On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 1:56 PM, Marcus D. Leech <mle...@ripnet.com 
<mailto:mle...@ripnet.com> > wrote:

Thanks Marcus for your reply.

>> Probably somewhere in the neighborhood of +7dBm, maybe a little more.

>> The LF/BASIC series have *no* gain in either path, so you're just looked
at buffered ADC ouput.

So, ~ +7dBm is the max output power I supposed to get from the LFTX 
daughterboard? How do I get that?

Since I am only getting -28.13 dBm, does that mean I have some issue with my 
LFTX daughterboard?

 

Khalid

 

Output power is determined largely by baseband signal magnitude in that case. 













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Hi,

What is the maximum output power from the LFTX daughterboard when used with
the USRP N200?

According to this datasheet [1], the N200 with the WBX daughterbaord
provide an output power of 15 dBm. However, when using the LFTX
daughterboard, I am getting a much less output power.
[1] http://www.ettus.com/content/files/07495_Ettus_N200-210_DS_Flyer_HR.pdf

In GNU Radio with the USRP N200, we use a sinusoid with a frequency of 150
kHz and an amplitude of 0.98, fed into the LFTX daughterboard for a center
frequency of 5 MHz. When the output of LFTX is plugged into a scope
terminated with a 50-ohm terminator, the scope reads 24.8 mV
(peak-to-peak). This is around -28.13 dBm.

Is this the max power one can get out of the LFTX daughterboard?


Thanks.

Best regards,
Khalid
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On 01/06/2015 08:43 AM, khalid.el-darymli wrote:
> Hi,
>
> What is the maximum output power from the LFTX daughterboard when used
> with the USRP N200?
>
> According to this datasheet [1], the N200 with the WBX daughterbaord
> provide an output power of 15 dBm. However, when using the LFTX
> daughterboard, I am getting a much less output power.
> [1]
> http://www.ettus.com/content/files/07495_Ettus_N200-210_DS_Flyer_HR.pdf
>
> In GNU Radio with the USRP N200, we use a sinusoid with a frequency of
> 150 kHz and an amplitude of 0.98, fed into the LFTX daughterboard for
> a center frequency of 5 MHz. When the output of LFTX is plugged into a
> scope terminated with a 50-ohm terminator, the scope reads 24.8 mV
> (peak-to-peak). This is around -28.13 dBm.
>
> Is this the max power one can get out of the LFTX daughterboard?
>
>
> Thanks.
>
> Best regards,
> Khalid
Probably somewhere in the neighborhood of +7dBm, maybe a little more.

The LF/BASIC series have *no* gain in either path, so you're just looked
at buffered ADC ouput.



--
Marcus Leech
Principal Investigator
Shirleys Bay Radio Astronomy Consortium
http://www.sbrac.org






-- 
Marcus Leech
Principal Investigator
Shirleys Bay Radio Astronomy Consortium
http://www.sbrac.org

 

 

 

 

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