Hello Derek, 


I agree with you. I am trying to make a jammer to be able to detect it 
afterwards. The idea is to use machine learning to be able to detect a jammer 
with gnuradio by using a trained model.



De : Aditya Arun Kumar <adityaarunkumar...@gmail.com>
À : Robert Heerekop <robertheere...@gmail.com>
Sujet : Re: Jamming the WiFi channel
Date : 17/01/2021 18:23:19 Europe/Paris
Copie à : GNURadio Discussion List <discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org>

Hi Derek,
Yeah, I accept all the things, after all, I have to, as I tend to wireless 
systems and their security and some more stuff with regards to radios and SDR 
and things. But what I suggest is that we guys start a separate 
application/discussion area for these kinds of things (because I personally as 
well to some extent historically believe[ 
https://doi.org/10.1080/03071847709428739 ]) that this must be an integral part 
of the ecosystem. I accept the part where one needs to have proper RF 
enclosures or a SCIF to conduct these emission experiments (unless it a wide 
range of open testing). 

I propose that we have a separate discussion for things like this, just for 
educational purposes, because I feel that there is too much 
"Telecommunications" research happening, but very quiet a limited discussion 
regarding "What is the best way to build a signal for a jammer from its 
spectra" or "What happens in spatial resolution compromise in a RADAR system 
and how this can be a problem". Basically, I am trying to say let's break the 
taboo about the discussion about EW and SIGINT and ELINT using SDR and GRC. 
After all, radios are fun.


This part goes to Mr.Robert
In my humble opinion sir, I don't agree with you not one bit. Technology is a 
dual-edged sword, and radio is a knife with jagged and pointy edges everywhere. 
There is no concept of morality (at least it cannot be quantified by any 
metric). EW is an integral part of our life now. And people who are into it can 
and should be able to learn it, no matter what, no matter the cost. This is 
knowledge and as I can say GRC taught me a lot, in terms of learning and 
sharing their knowledge be it in blogs or conferences or this mail list. In 
fact, this kind of question needs to be encouraged but with significant warning 
labels around them.


On Sun, Jan 17, 2021 at 9:32 PM Robert Heerekop <robertheere...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

To my humble opinion, this is simply not allowed and must therefore from a 
moral point-a-view not be promoted.

Op zo 17 jan. 2021 16:29 schreef Aditya Arun Kumar 
<adityaarunkumar...@gmail.com>:

On a serious note, I know that all of us know how to build a jammer, in case of 
questions like this how do we deal with it?
I mean I can do both sides, in the spirit of sharing the knowledge I think that 
someone should tell the person who is doing it on how to build a jammer (in 
this case) or should we not help the person?
Or should we condemn these acts?


On Sun, Jan 17, 2021 at 10:15 AM Doug McGarrett <dmcgarr...@optonline.net> 
wrote:



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> Hello, I have build a VCO jammer using gnuradio and I would like to 
> emit the jamming signal on a Wi-Fi channel but nothing is being emitted.
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> Can anyone please help me ?
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> I am newbie to signal processing.
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Probably even in France it is illegal to jam radio signals. I sure hope 
that NOBODY helps you!
--doug





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Security Researcher, Comms

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