Also... my own 2cents: 1) While GNUstep _is_ easy to install when people complain about difficult installation they talk about: - lack of *in your face* information on the website to install it - lack of distribution packages
Yes GNUstep is really easy to install, just grab the tgz and make install do the trick, more or less. That would have been considered a gloriously simple installation process ten years ago. And it's still magnitude easier than installing KDE or GNOME by hand. But guess what: it does not matter, as KDE and GNOME are now either preinstalled or fully packaged and the inherent complexity of their installation is completely hidden to the users. Unfair ? you bet. But I don't see the point crying over this. We NEED packages, up to date, period. 2) A nice slogan is good, but that's not really what we lack or need most, is it ? I mean if the recent effort put into that discussion was spent on the website, it would have been a bit more effective ;-) [not throwing rocks to anybody, I'm the first to not have time at the moment to work on gnustep] Frankly I think that we should have a policy to NOT announcing releases until packages are available for Ubuntu and Fedora -- we don't even need to have them /included/ in the distribution, we can simply have our own repositories that people can add (as far as I know it's easy to do in both these distributions!) Also we really lack a big INSTALL GNUSTEP red button in the middle of the website pointing to a page going through what do you need to do to INSTALL gnustep and LAUNCH at least one application. -- Nicolas Roard "La perfection, ce n'est pas quand il n'y a plus rien à ajouter, c'est quand il n'y a plus rien à enlever." -- Antoine de St-Exupéry _______________________________________________ Discuss-gnustep mailing list Discuss-gnustep@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnustep