On 2025-04-27 18:58:19 +0200 Gregory Casamento <greg.casame...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On this branch both buildtool and the GNUmakefile produce a working > binary. It is now finding the Main.storyboard as it should, but it's > failing to load and I am currently looking into this. Thanks Greg, You are so efficient! In my own side, I am just trying to make conda success... so I am a little late... As we say, in the French way, "après la bataille" ;-) > > On Sun, Apr 27, 2025 at 12:56 PM Gregory Casamento > <greg.casame...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> I have submitted my changes as PR #1 on ethans fork, I closed the one on >> davidchisnall's. It is on a branch known as constructor_correction. > >> On Sun, Apr 27, 2025 at 12:41 PM Gregory Casamento < >> greg.casame...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> I have it building, I submitted a PR, but I believe it is against David's >>> repository. I will update it to be against yours. Right now it is >>> loading the resources, but it's failing on the Main.storyboard. I believe >>> the fault lies there. I will track that down as I am already working on >>> that code as it is. > >>> On Sun, Apr 27, 2025 at 12:39 PM Patrick Cardona <patrick.card...@ik.me> >>> wrote: > >>>> On 2025-04-27 04:40:29 +0200 Ethan C <echaroenpit...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>> I am currently building aarch64 packages, I will update you if they >>>> are >>>>> completed. You can check the progress on GitHub >>>>> < >>>> https://github.com/ethanc8/gnustep-forge-feedstocks/actions/runs/14687506985/job/41218202112>. > >>>>> I don't have an aarch64 machine set up right now, so I would need you >>>> to test >>>>> the packages. > >>>> Of course, Ethan, I shall do it. It is an amazing project, I think very >>>> helpful about testing and developing. > >>>>> >>>>> On 4/26/25 20:02, Patrick Cardona wrote: >>>>>> Hi Ethan, >>>>> >>>>>> Conda and manba seem to loook great, but as says your guide : >>>>> >>>>>>> Right now it only works on x86_64 glibc Linux. >>>>>> And I am working on aarch64. So I did not follow the conda way. >>>>> >>>>>> But I tried on another env with Clang already there (within >>>> NEXTSPACE: >>>>>> Debian clang version 14.0.6). >>>>> >>>>>> So I could build some parts and was stuck at this (I just copied the >>>> end, >>>>>> because all the errors are the same): >>>>> >>>>>> OOStyleRegistry.mm:348:7: note: candidate constructor (the implicit >>>> copy >>>>>> constructor) not viable: requires 1 argument, but 7 were provided >>>>>> class number_style_attribute : public style_attribute >>>>>> ^ >>>>>> OOStyleRegistry.mm:348:7: note: candidate constructor (the implicit >>>> move >>>>>> constructor) not viable: requires 1 argument, but 7 were provided >>>>>> 3 warnings and 13 errors generated. >>>>>> gmake[3]: *** [/Developer/Makefiles/rules.make:575: >>>>>> obj/OpenOutliner.obj/OOStyleRegistry.mm.o] Error 1 >>>>>> gmake[2]: *** [/Developer/Makefiles/Instance/application.make:145: >>>>>> internal-app-run-compile-submake] Error 2 >>>>>> gmake[1]: *** [/Developer/Makefiles/Master/rules.make:297: >>>>>> OpenOutliner.all.app.variables] Error 2 >>>>>> make: *** [/Developer/Makefiles/Master/application.make:38: >>>> internal-all] >>>>>> Error >>>>>> 2 >>>>> >>>>>> Obviously due to my clang version. >>>>> >>>>>> On 2025-04-26 04:03:51 +0200 Ethan C<echaroenpit...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>> Could you try my guide to installing GNUstep with Conda >>>>>>> < >>>> https://github.com/ethanc8/gnustep-forge-feedstocks/blob/master/guide.md >>>>> ? >>>>>>> Use the environment.yml in the OpenOutliner repo >>>>>>> <https://github.com/ethanc8/OpenOutliner/blob/master/environment.yml> > >>>>>>> rather >>>>>>> than the one in the guide. It should have everything you need, but >>>> I've >>>>>>> only >>>>>>> tested it on my machine. >>>>> >>>>>>> Note that you always need to `mamba activate gnustep` in order to >>>> enter the >>>>>>> environment. This environment will contain Clang, the latest stable >>>>>>> releases >>>>>>> of the GNUstep core libraries as of December, glibc 2.34, libbsd, >>>> zlib, and >>>>>>> all the other dependencies. >>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>> >>>>>>> Ethan >>>>> >>>>>>> On 4/25/25 17:42, Patrick Cardona wrote: >>>>>>>> Hello Ethan and Greg, >>>>>>>> Tried to build from the last commit of Ethan, but obviously, my >>>> GNUstep >>>>>>>> environment (GS-Desktop by Ondrej Florian, on Debian 12, aarch64) >>>> is not >>>>>>>> enough up to date: I am missing arc and the compiler complains: >>>>>>>>> Compiling file AppDelegate.m ... >>>>>>>>> gcc: error: unrecognized command-line option ‘-fobjc-arc’; >>>> did >>>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>>> mean ‘-fobjc-gc’? >>>>>>>> I installed clang, but it did not fixed this. >>>>>>>> Are you both working on FreeBSD ? >>>>>>>> On 2025-04-25 21:18:59 +0200 Ethan C<echaroenpit...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> After adding all the resources and setting the main storyboard to >>>>>>>>> Main.storyboard, it gives me an error saying that -[NSXMLDocument >>>>>>>>> initWithData:options:error] is being called with data = nil. I >>>> have just >>>>>>>>> committed this change, and I can't debug further. >>>>>>>>> On 4/25/25 13:13, Gregory Casamento wrote: >>>>>>>>>> If you commit your changes (I presume you have) I'll take a look. >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 25, 2025 at 2:04 PM Ethan C<echaroenpit...@gmail.com> > >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> After disabling the pasteboard, the app now builds and >>>> links. >>>>>>>>>> However, only the miniwindow shows up, and it complains >>>> about >>>>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>>>> being able to find its resources. I don't know the >>>> GNUstep >>>>>>>>>> resource system well so some help would be appreciated. >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 25, 2025, 10:10 Ethan C< >>>> echaroenpit...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Thanks Patrick, Greg! >>>>>>>>>> Hi everyone, >>>>>>>>>> I have written a GNUmakefile. The main obstacle is >>>> the >>>>>>>>>> pasteboard functionality. >>>>>>>>>> GNUstep implements the OpenStep/pre-10.5 OSX >>>> pasteboard (see >>>>>>>>>> the GNUstep docs >>>>>>>>>> < >>>> https://www.gnustep.org/resources/documentation/Developer/Gui/Reference/NSPasteboard.html >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> and the Apple docs >>>>>>>>>> < >>>> https://developer.apple.com/library/archive/documentation/Cocoa/Conceptual/CopyandPaste/CopyandPaste.html >>>>> ); >>>>>>>>>> I have no idea how it integrates with the system's >>>>>>>>>> clipboards. >>>>>>>>>> This pasteboard contains a single item, which may >>>> have >>>>>>>>>> multiple representations. >>>>>>>>>> Modern macOS implements the post-10.6 OSX pasteboard >>>> (see >>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> Apple docs >>>>>>>>>> < >>>> https://developer.apple.com/library/archive/documentation/Cocoa/Conceptual/PasteboardGuide106/Introduction/Introduction.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/TP40008099 >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> - "Pasteboard Concepts" is the most important part), >>>> and >>>>>>>>>> OpenOutliner expects this to work. This pasteboard >>>> is a list >>>>>>>>>> of items (for example, if you copy a selection of a >>>> webpage >>>>>>>>>> which contains an image it should put a rich text >>>> and an >>>>>>>>>> image >>>>>>>>>> onto the pasteboard), each of which may have multiple >>>>>>>>>> representations. Additionally, it starts using >>>> Uniform Type >>>>>>>>>> Identifiers (UTIs) in order to refer to types rather >>>> than >>>>>>>>>> use >>>>>>>>>> the old pasteboard type strings (at least in 10.6 >>>> those old >>>>>>>>>> strings were still supported but were deprecated). >>>>>>>>>> It looks kind of complicated to implement the new >>>> pasteboard >>>>>>>>>> API, so maybe we could try porting OpenOutliner to >>>> the old >>>>>>>>>> pasteboard API or temporarily disabling all the >>>> features >>>>>>>>>> which >>>>>>>>>> need the pasteboard. Do any of you have opinions on >>>> this? >>>>>>>>>> The Uniform Type Identifiers framework, part of >>>>>>>>>> LaunchServices, seems to be implemented by Boron so >>>> we could >>>>>>>>>> probably do that. (However, that would make >>>> gnustep-gui >>>>>>>>>> depend >>>>>>>>>> on Boron, which may or may not be wanted.) We might >>>> want to >>>>>>>>>> implement in Boron the new Uniform Type Identifiers >>>>>>>>>> framework >>>>>>>>>> < >>>> https://developer.apple.com/documentation/uniformtypeidentifiers?language=objc >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> introduced in macOS 11 Big Sur, which is >>>> object-oriented >>>>>>>>>> (UTIs >>>>>>>>>> are of type `UTType*` rather than `NSString*`, and >>>> it >>>>>>>>>> provides >>>>>>>>>> an Objective-C API). Although OpenOutliner doesn't >>>> use the >>>>>>>>>> new >>>>>>>>>> UTI APIs, it would be useful to implement in case >>>> newer apps >>>>>>>>>> need it, and regardless it seems to be a cleaner API. >>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>> Ethan >>>>>>>>>> On 4/25/25 08:01, Gregory Casamento wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> Ethan, >>>>>>>>>>> Mine is gcasa. I would like to help a little if I >>>> can. >>>>>>>>>>> Also, >>>>>>>>>>> expanding libs-xcode, if it needs it, to handle it. >>>>>>>>>>> Yours, GC >>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 25, 2025 at 4:11 AM Patrick Cardona >>>>>>>>>>> <patrick.card...@ik.me> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-04-24 18:50:21 +0200 Ethan C >>>>>>>>>>> <echaroenpit...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> Hello Ethan, >>>>>>>>>>> > I started on the porting at >>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/ethanc8/OpenOutliner. >>>>>>>>>>> Great! >>>>>>>>>>> > You can >>>>>>>>>>> > grep for "FIXME-GNUstep" for the things that >>>> don't >>>>>>>>>>> work >>>>>>>>>>> yet (the whole thing >>>>>>>>>>> > doesn't compile yet). If you give me your >>>> GitHub >>>>>>>>>>> username I can give you >>>>>>>>>>> > commit access to my fork. >>>>>>>>>>> Mine is: pcardona34 >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > On 4/24/25 08:14, Patrick Cardona wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >> Hello Ethan, >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >> Thanks for this mention. I shall look at >>>> this. >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >> On 2025-04-24 04:57:47 +0200 Ethan C >>>>>>>>>>> <echaroenpit...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >>> Hi everyone, >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >>> David Chisnall recently mentioned on >>>> Lobsters >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> < >>>> https://lobste.rs/s/btjtkr/what_software_do_you_dream_about_do_not#c_i2m53u >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> a clone of OmniOutliner 3 he wrote in 2017, >>>> and >>>>>>>>>>> said >>>>>>>>>>> it would be easily >>>>>>>>>>> >>> portable. Its source is on GitHub >>>>>>>>>>> >>>< >>>> https://github.com/davidchisnall/OpenOutliner> if >>>>>>>>>>> you want to look at it. >>>>>>>>>>> >>> From the README it looks like a decently >>>> complex >>>>>>>>>>> application with lots >>>>>>>>>>> >>> of functionality, so it could be quite >>>> useful to >>>>>>>>>>> port >>>>>>>>>>> it. See also Liam >>>>>>>>>>> >>> Proven's comment about why he uses outliners >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> < >>>> https://lobste.rs/s/btjtkr/what_software_do_you_dream_about_do_not#c_owdlc8 >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> to get an idea of what outliner users would >>>> want. I >>>>>>>>>>> might take up this at >>>>>>>>>>> >>> some point, but I doubt it as I am quite >>>> busy and >>>>>>>>>>> have too many side >>>>>>>>>>> >>> projects already :) >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >>> Ethan Charoenpitaks >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> -- Patrick Cardona - France >>>>>>>>>>> MUA: GNUMail - Hardware: Raspberry Pi pi400 >>>> Model >>>>>>>>>>> OS: Debian 12 (RPI-OS Lite) - Desktop: GSDE >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- Gregory Casamento >>>>>>>>>>> GNUstep Lead Developer / Black Lotus, Principal >>>> Consultant >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.gnustep.org - >>>> http://heronsperch.blogspot.com >>>>>>>>>>> https://www.patreon.com/bePatron?u=352392 - Become >>>> a >>>>>>>>>>> Patron >>>>>>>>>>> https://www.openhub.net/languages/objective_c >>>>>>>>>>> >>>> https://www.gofundme.com/f/cacao-linux-a-gnustep-reference-implementation >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> Gregory Casamento >>>>>>>>>> GNUstep Lead Developer / Black Lotus, Principal Consultant >>>>>>>>>> http://www.gnustep.org -http://heronsperch.blogspot.com >>>>>>>>>> https://www.patreon.com/bePatron?u=352392 - Become a Patron >>>>>>>>>> https://www.openhub.net/languages/objective_c >>>>>>>>>> >>>> https://www.gofundme.com/f/cacao-linux-a-gnustep-reference-implementation >>>>> > >>>> -- >>>> Patrick Cardona - France >>>> MUA: GNUMail - Hardware: Raspberry Pi pi400 Model >>>> OS: Debian 12 (RPI-OS Lite) - Desktop: GSDE > > > > >>> -- >>> Gregory Casamento >>> GNUstep Lead Developer / Black Lotus, Principal Consultant >>> http://www.gnustep.org - http://heronsperch.blogspot.com >>> https://www.patreon.com/bePatron?u=352392 - Become a Patron >>> https://www.openhub.net/languages/objective_c >>> https://www.gofundme.com/f/cacao-linux-a-gnustep-reference-implementation > > > >> -- >> Gregory Casamento >> GNUstep Lead Developer / Black Lotus, Principal Consultant >> http://www.gnustep.org - http://heronsperch.blogspot.com >> https://www.patreon.com/bePatron?u=352392 - Become a Patron >> https://www.openhub.net/languages/objective_c >> https://www.gofundme.com/f/cacao-linux-a-gnustep-reference-implementation > > > -- Patrick Cardona - France MUA: GNUMail - Hardware: Raspberry Pi pi400 Model OS: Debian 12 (RPI-OS Lite) - Desktop: GSDE
