Hello Kris,

> If a company spams, they *will not* get my business.
Okay thats your choice. But we differ on the point of weather they are a bad
company etc. etc.

> It sounds to me as though you're looking for OpenSRS to provide, at the
> expense of some of the skilled resellers and the benefit to the lazy ones,
> a service which requires a fair amount of resources.
Lazy resellers is not the opposite of skilled resellers just so you know.
The opposite of skilled is unskilled and that does not imply or mean lazy.
Once again you have missed my point. My point is very simple, other
registrars offer those services to their resellers (at about the same base
price per domain year) so they as a whole have an advantage over OpenSRS
resellers as a whole. So OpenSRS will be by definition less competitive than
the other Registrars ... very obvious logic to me.

Please do not use the "hey why don't you go to the other registrar then"
argument. It is very tiresome. I like OpenSRS, want to stay with them, and
would like for them to improve their offerings.

I see you side of the argument. Right now you spent time and resources
developing the extra services so if OpenSRS provided those services to all
resellers it would not benefit you in any way ... in fact it might hurt you.
But as we both know there is a little more to selling than just having a
good product ... you have to be skilled in actual selling, marketing,
fulfillment, customer service, tech support, getting referrals, advertising
etc. Also since you a "skilled" reseller I am sure you will be able to
develop other additional services.

But I strongly believe that providing the extra offerings will have a
greater benefit for opensrs and all resellers
-it would make all their resellers (as a whole) more competitive (thus
helping increase sales)
-it would increase OpenSRS's ability to get more resellers since they are
providing so much in addition to their standard domain registration and
great customer service/tech support
-Since resellers will be more competitive they would bring in more business
which helps openSRS maintain their excellent customer service and software

In business there a lots of tradeoffs to be made. Not everyone ends up on
the right end of every tradeoff :(

later

David


>
> I, for one (as a skilled reseller), am opposed to this.
>
> > Another point is that other registrars already provide the services for
> > their resellers so of the bat other resellers have an advantage
> over OpenSRS
> > resellers. They would now have to do extra work to at least match other
> > resellers instead of selling domains. Once again OpenSRS resellers as a
> > whole are at a disadvantage with the other resellers.
>
> Well, go join the other registrars, then... but I get the sense that you
> find something much better (perhaps it is the lack of spam) about OpenSRS
> which keeps you here.
>
> > And finally some Registrars now *retail* domains at $10-$15 range. So if
>
> So can you, as an OpenSRS reseller!  It'll be a loss leader but perhaps
> you can upsell them to hosting packages, mail forwarding, etc.
>
> > OpenSRS provides the extra services that would be helpful to
> new (and some
> > existing) RSP's to give them a competitive advantage (or at
> least make them
> > even with some other resellers)
>
> If they do that, what?  You didn't finish this thought.
>
> > It seems the only reason you have any objections is because you
> must already
> > have the services I am discussing in place. So from your
> limited perspective
> > it does you no good ... but in the overall long-term health of
> OpenSRS it
> > makes sense that they provide all their RSPs with as many
> weapons to compete
> > with in the marketplace. They will help OpenSRS as a whole do
> better since
> > their RSP's will do better. All RSPs gain if OpenSRS is competitive and
> > doing well i.e. OpenSRS can continue their superb tech support, upgrade
> > code, upgrade hardware etc .
>
> Well, another thing I have to keep in mind is that I am competing against
> you.  My product appears to be superior to yours, as I include mail
> forwarding and domain hosting with my typical registration fee.  Granted,
> we are more expensive, but we do offer services which it seems you do not
> (otherwise, you also would not be asking for them here).
>
> Differentiating my service from some Joe Schmoe who decides to put up the
> $500 (Quickstart requires the larger funding) to register somewhere
> between 14 and 50 domains just because he feels like it (with OpenSRS
> doing all the work) is something that I feel must be done.  We have
> invested a large amount of development time into making our domain
> registration business viable, and our features worthwhile.
>
> -kb
> --
> Kris Benson
> ABC Communications
> +1 (250)612-5270 x14
> +1 (888)235-1174 x14
>


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