Florian, On 13 August 2012 02:21, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak <[email protected]>wrote:
> > I was not aware that any list existed that did not use "reply mangling" so > that the reply (by default) went back to the list.... Will be interested to > see what occurs. > > > > > On 08/12/2012 12:26 PM, Florian Effenberger wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> this is to inform you that the reply settings on this list have changed >> (so-called "Reply to mangling" has been disabled). >> >> So far, e-mails had set a reply-to the mailing list address. In other >> words, with any e-mail client, replies to e-mails on the list were >> automatically sent directly to the list. >> >> In the past, this lead to two major problems: >> >> 1. Several times, people have sent direct replies to the public list, >> where deleting them is nearly impossible. I remember at least one case >> where confidential information has been sent out that caused lots of >> worries for the sender and his employer. This happened because people hit >> "reply" and thought it would reply to the sender only. >> >> 2. I have heard complaints in the past from people, stating that working >> with the non-developer lists of LibreOffice is a pain for them, because of >> reply-to mangling, resulting in a lack of communication. This also led to >> the fact that numerous tasks were done by the same people, who needed to >> spend more and more time, instead of sharing the work burden with others. >> While I do not fully believe this argument, there's just one way to find >> out... >> >> Therefore, I have applied a change: >> >> Replies to e-mails from the list now only go to the original sender. You >> either need to use the "reply to all" feature of your e-mail program, or - >> preferably - the "reply to list"/"reply to group" feature, which will >> direct replies directly to the list. >> >> This is common practice on most mailing lists, and even the default >> setting for our mailing list software, so we did not re-invent the wheel >> here. Those seeking for details should have a look at >> http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html >> >> I know we had numerous discussions on this topic in the past, but the >> outcome was that roughly 50% were for this change, and 50% refused it, so I >> am really sitting between two chairs here, for which I beg for your >> understanding. On the one hand, those complaining the lists are unusable >> with reply-to mangling, on the other hand, those complaining the lists are >> unusable without reply-to mangling. Unfortunately, combining those two, >> even on a per-recipient basis, is not possible, so they are mutually >> exclusive to each other. >> >> In order to find out the real impact, I simply changed the setting, and >> again, I beg for your understanding. >> >> Do not worry: The mailing lists are for the community, so it's the >> community deciding how they should work. What I'd like to ask all of you is >> to try out for a few days if that change is good for each list or not. >> Should we find out it is more harmful than it helps, I will immediately >> switch back to the old behaviour. >> >> Sorry for this short notice, and I beg for your understanding that I'm >> somehow sitting between two chairs here. >> >> Florian >> >> > I will find this a real pain. I use Gmail, which seems to only have Reply and Reply to All. There is no Reply to List. So to send this back to the list I have to Reply to All, remove Andrew from the To box, and Cut and Paste the list address from the CC box. If I do not do this, Andrew will get my message twice. Please put it back the way it was, Tony -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to [email protected] Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
